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    What's the current state of DPMS rifles?

    I have always steered people away from DPMS products due in part to their reputation of poor QC, substandard materials and attention to detail.

    It's been a long time since I have evaluated any of their guns, due to the fact that I just dismiss them automatically. There's a "Myth Busting Thread" in their industry forum on TOS that details their manufacturing specs and materials.



    In the interest of intellectual honesty, I feel credit should be due if a company cleans up their act. I notice, though there are a few things they omit in their chart.

    Has DPMS improved their products, or are they still favoring the "quantity over quality" model they've endorsed in the past?

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    With a company like DPMS I always figure even if you get a "good one" that's built right and runs good out of the box your still getting 4140 barrels that are probably not chrome lined, batch tested 8620 bolts, etc. There is better stuff out there for about the same $ so why bother?

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    I recently had a "newer" DPMS Carbine in one of my classes and it was a POS just like their other stuff.



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    I put a premium on quality rifles and handguns and dont buy junk my rifles are colt and my handguns are glock. I dont like stuff that doesnt work, that being said my wife bought me a DPMS LR308 as a surprise for my birthday. I was happy that she put the effort into it and was thinking to myself great a rifle I doubt will run but I will never be able to sell because it was a gift. I know it is a sample of one but it has run flawlessly and was moa out of the box. Im betting it is really hit or miss when you are dealing with lower end production.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RearwardAssist View Post
    I put a premium on quality rifles and handguns and dont buy junk my rifles are colt and my handguns are glock
    This reminds me of the girl I dated years ago who said, "I don't drink cheap beer -- I drink Miller Lite!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by RearwardAssist View Post
    I put a premium on quality rifles and handguns and dont buy junk my rifles are colt and my handguns are glock. I dont like stuff that doesnt work, that being said my wife bought me a DPMS LR308 as a surprise for my birthday. I was happy that she put the effort into it and was thinking to myself great a rifle I doubt will run but I will never be able to sell because it was a gift. I know it is a sample of one but it has run flawlessly and was moa out of the box. Im betting it is really hit or miss when you are dealing with lower end production.
    From my understanding their 308 rifles are actually pretty good rifles. My brother has one that has been a great rifle. Its primarily a hunting rifle and has never been run hard, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HackerF15E View Post
    This reminds me of the girl I dated years ago who said, "I don't drink cheap beer -- I drink Miller Lite!"
    Maybe I should have said I put a premium on reliable weapons.
    Quote Originally Posted by jmnielsen View Post
    From my understanding their 308 rifles are actually pretty good rifles. My brother has one that has been a great rifle. Its primarily a hunting rifle and has never been run hard, though.
    I have been surprised my expectations were very low.

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    A friend bought a Remington R-25 recently, which is made by DPMS. I mounted a scope for him, and he left me 10 rounds to try it out. I managed a 1 1/2" 3-shot group at 200 meters using Hornady Superformance 150 gr. SST. Enjoy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1911-A1 View Post
    I have always steered people away from DPMS products due in part to their reputation of poor QC, substandard materials and attention to detail.

    It's been a long time since I have evaluated any of their guns, due to the fact that I just dismiss them automatically. There's a "Myth Busting Thread" in their industry forum on TOS that details their manufacturing specs and materials.



    In the interest of intellectual honesty, I feel credit should be due if a company cleans up their act. I notice, though there are a few things they omit in their chart.

    Has DPMS improved their products, or are they still favoring the "quantity over quality" model they've endorsed in the past?
    This "anti-chart" is absolutely deceptive. Sure, DPMS makes chrome-lined 1x7 twist barrels with mil-spec receiver extensions and H-buffers, but good luck finding any DPMS rifle that has that configuration straight off the shelf. Those options are usually special-order only, primarily for LE folks.

    And it's obvious they have no idea what an F-marked FSB actually is. And their gas key staking still is subpar, although I guess it's better than nothing.

    The fact that their little "chart" avoids any discussion of materials is telling, as well.

    They should be ashamed of themselves.

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    I don't even have an idle curiosity, sorry. It only matters to rabid members of TOS and their equivalent, who are in the perpetual defense of commercial grade guns, then hyping them as the equivalent to military grade guns. This is their chart of proof of being 'just as good as" to wave at the nay sayers. Outside of that occasional plinker, bubba crowd, who really cares?
    For God and the soldier we adore, In time of danger, not before! The danger passed, and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier slighted." - Rudyard Kipling

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