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Thread: What's the current state of DPMS rifles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverBullet432 View Post
    Thanks. And I think I know what that other site is.

    My first AR was a DPMS, which I picked up for $600 bucks from a co-worker/ friend. I wasn't much into the "who's who" of the AR world back then, but I know I couldn't leave it well enough alone. Lurking on this site and other forums I began the process of improving what I had, and it became the rifle that paved the way to assembling my own ARs. In the end I stripped it down to only the bare lower receiver minus the take-down pins and replaced every component. I made myself a pretty killer DPMS at the end of the day. Sold it since then though.

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    The OP has refined his original very broad question to specifically ask about DPMS's .308 rifles. We certainly do not have as many options in the .308 flavor as with 5.56. IMO for hunting, range, or plinking it should be fine. Unless all our guns MUST be HD grade.
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    Why would they bother improving the quality of their ARs when the idiots are buying them like hot cakes?

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    I did a 2-day 1000-round carbine course a couple of weeks ago. There was a guy with a new DPMS whose performance reinforced the stereotype of that brand. Mentioned in this AAR just posted today.

    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=135154

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    I used to sell guns at a "major" department store. It never failed, we would have some guy in and buy a semi auto the day before he went out to use it for hunting. No cleaning, no break in, no learning the sights and buying the cheapest ammo on the shelf. They always come back the next day complaining about the poor performance of their new gun and how it jammed and failed to eject. kwg

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    Quote Originally Posted by justin_247 View Post
    This "anti-chart" is absolutely deceptive. Sure, DPMS makes chrome-lined 1x7 twist barrels with mil-spec receiver extensions and H-buffers, but good luck finding any DPMS rifle that has that configuration straight off the shelf. Those options are usually special-order only, primarily for LE folks.

    And it's obvious they have no idea what an F-marked FSB actually is. And their gas key staking still is subpar, although I guess it's better than nothing.

    The fact that their little "chart" avoids any discussion of materials is telling, as well.

    They should be ashamed of themselves.
    I noticed this as well when looking at their "myth-busting" chart. When marketers try to become engineers.

    I am pretty much with gunz on this. The only time I will get involved and try to stop someone from a Bushy/DPMS/Oly purchase is if I personally know and like the individual in question.

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    If I had a dollar---

    for every time I've heard, but it's a Panther, or it's just as good and it's a hundred dollars cheaper or my friend's shoots that steel cased stuff just fine. You can lead them to water, you can't make them drink.

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    This has been a painful thread to read.

    In July 2008 I saw Dick Morris and asked him who was going to win, he said Obama.

    I didn't know shit about ARs, even though I'd spent 5 years in the Marines in the infantry. I just did what the Corps told me to do. Never a fan of the 5.56, I bought a DPMS AP4 in 7.62. Had to be good right? It was NRA rifle of the year in 2007 or something...and I believed Dick. Obama was going to ban everything. Well, it took a little longer than I thought, but, it still happened.

    Frankly, I've never had a problem with it, even pumping 19 round after 19 round mags through it in rapid fire. I even put a gnarly brake on it. It's staked well, and has been a good rifle...but it's not a good rifle... is it?

    Fast forward to December 2012, and I'm back in the market after Conn. Need to act fast because I know it's coming. Luckily, I find this forum and buy a Colt 6920 SOCOM. Thanks again to you AR 'snobs'!

    What do I do with the DPMS? It's been a good rifle, but never did and never will supplant my Springfield M1A, as my number 1 rifle. So it sits in the safe....

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    No real clue as to what DPMS is doing or if their quality is better, though judging by the increased demand over the past few years I would bet against it increasing. Have seen some horrible examples of their rifles in performance and do hear a number go well it shoots just as accurate as X, Y, or Z so it must be as good. However I do not personally think I have ever met a person who owned a DPMS who had run more then a few hundred rounds through their rifle. At this point, if I were to shoot a DPMS and the ****er didn't blow up I would be happy. Still wouldn't buy from them, but would be happy that it didn't kill me since I don't trust their rifles. My BCM I trust though. That is worth the nominal extra, $100-200 more for a similar looking though far superior internally rifle in what I might pay to build a BCM over buying a DPMS locally.

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    Companies have shown that they can make money and produce a quality rifle, why all of the corner-cutting? It must be all about profit-margins, EBITDA, etc. But why screw your customers for it? Now that I know who makes quality products and who doesn't I will only buy from the guys that believe in quality. And I will not buy any more AR lowers, uppers, parts, accessories, etc. from sales men that should know more about the products they sell. There are plenty of vendors (like those that advertise on this site) that want to sell their customers quality rifles and parts at competitive prices.

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