I can't tell whether some of the fecies that is being spewed around here is people just trolling or their actual beliefs.
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I can't tell whether some of the fecies that is being spewed around here is people just trolling or their actual beliefs.
Who's got an MRE handy?![]()
We have 4 DPMS Panthers for our UTM training carbines. I will leave feedback on how these prime weapons hold up, or how long they may last.
P.S. I was not in charge of purchasing. I am going thru each gun and re-staking, etc to give them every chance I can.
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tim
You don't know what you don't know. Ya know?What's the saying about buying your 2nd boat 1st?
My first AR was a DPMS base that I built myself. The ONLY remaining DPMS part in that build is actually the stripped upper receiver, everything else has since been replaced with higher quality parts. In retrospect it makes perfect sense why my first AR was a price point AR, I didn't know what the heck I was doing at the time and didn't want to buy bells and whistles that I did not need. Tons of hours of research, and dozens of range sessions, and several builds later; I figured it out.
When I am building an AR for a customer, I allow the customer to spec out the parts. I will give them guidance along the selection process but ultimately the decision is theirs.
DPMS will go bang and that's good enough for most shooters. In the car world it's no ferrari but not everyone wants to drive a ferrari. In other words a rifle for every budget and for every budget a rifle.
Last edited by AlphaKoncepts; 08-04-13 at 11:06.
-Thomas
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I sold my DPMS/DelTon/etc. rifles long ago when I finally got a clue about ARs.
Unfortunately, my SBR is a DPMS lower, so I'm stuck with the damned thing since my name is engraved on it. It isn't bad, but for the trigger pins that walk out after a few mags. I tried getting the ATF to cancel the DPMS stamp and issue me a new stamp on another lower because of this, and they outright laughed at me.
Do your research, kids.
Last edited by 1911-A1; 08-04-13 at 15:56.
Have you tried different pins? Checked for a J-Hook in the hammer?
Of all the DPMS problems I have heard of, their stripped recievers were servicable.
My brother saw Deliverance and bought a Bow. I saw Deliverance and bought an AR-15.
First carbine class I had ever enrolled in was a few years ago in Altha, FL, with a well known and respected instructor. It was during the first BHO administration and AR's were expensive and hard to find; I knew nothing of AR's other than I needed one for my first pistol/carbine class and was able to purchase a new DPMS for approx $700 otd .... It ran throughout the class and worked just fine....fast forward: did a few more classes, sold DPMS, now only own BCM,Colts, and LMT.
I 'got lucky' the first class but didn't trust it after the second class.
Lesson learned.
For the $$$ Colt, BCM and Daniel Defense are quite the bargain.
I have no idea where you guys are buying your DD, BCM, LMT's and Colts for "couple hundo more than a shitty DPMS".
I have many many rifles and I built most from pieces. At most a couple complete uppers and I can tell you that I can build 2-3 DPMS rifles for the cost of each of my BCM, DD, or Noveske's. I pay dealer cost for 90% of my stuff so it makes even less sense.
I also have lots of motorcycles. When a buddy wants to borrow one, he gets one of my "beaters". I have a lot less fancy doo dads and shiny parts on them, but they get the job done and he has fun riding them for a day.
My rifles are the same way. Some (like one of my Noveske's for instance) are basically "break glass in case of war" and I might let someone finger bang it 3 feet from my safe, but thats it. These are extremely low round count, high dollar "safe queens" as I feel its stupid to wear out your "go to gun". If the day is going to be playing around at the range, the DPMS's and Bushmasters get dirty. Cheap ass ammo and suppressors make for some filthy guns. They dont get cleaned until they start malfunctioning so they get clean only a few times a year. For what I do with them, they do great. But would I carry one of my DPMS or Bushy's through the gates of hell? HELL NO...
My point is, your are much more likely to have your life on the line while you are driving your car every day. Unless everyone is going to start driving Mercedes and Volvos and let all the Honda Civics, Hyundais Elantras and many other "decently safe, beater-daily drivers" to rust, then it makes sense to have some perspective on the "reality" of what you wil be actually doing with the rifle in real life and not fantasy...
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