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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post
    There is a lot of information that isn't being released right now, if BCM wants to post that, it is certainly their purview. However, what I would consider inside info is not going to come from me.
    Your subtle attitude shift didn't go unnoticed. Post #6 your bitchin' a bit and now your on the inside throwing smoke for the big tease.

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    Why does a thread about a part almost everyone knows nothing about have to turn into an agruement??

    Until someone has played with it or BCM releases more specifics why don't we just leave it alone. Gets ridiculous sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Knowing what little I know, the BCM rail will be lighter than what you are using now and probably have less flex in it.

    Is that worth it to you? I cannot answer that question.

    C4
    Thanks for the info, I guess it will depend on how much lighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxman7 View Post
    Why does a thread about a part almost everyone knows nothing about have to turn into an agruement??

    Until someone has played with it or BCM releases more specifics why don't we just leave it alone. Gets ridiculous sometimes.

    -Jax
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    Quote Originally Posted by jaxman7 View Post
    Why does a thread about a part almost everyone knows nothing about have to turn into an agruement??

    Until someone has played with it or BCM releases more specifics why don't we just leave it alone. Gets ridiculous sometimes.

    -Jax
    Hey... New rail releases are like a childbirth... Messy and painful. But you get something cute and new to play with. All part of the process.
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    I for one am proud to be a member of a forum where industry professionals and SMEs post information in real time and answer questions; my concern is that all this ARFCOM-style bickering and SPECULATING without facts and actual first-hand experience--which is against forum standards--will exasperate serious pros to where they won't bother to post anymore. Folks need to quit sucking the oxygen out of the room and give some respect to people who do these things for a living and have more knowledge about these things than most of us could ever hope to obtain, and who bring us the very products that make this forum possible. OORAH!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cincinnatus View Post
    I for one am proud to be a member of a forum where industry professionals and SMEs post information in real time and answer questions; my concern is that all this ARFCOM-style bickering and SPECULATING without facts and actual first-hand experience--which is against forum standards--will exasperate serious pros to where they won't bother to post anymore. Folks need to quit sucking the oxygen out of the room and give some respect to people who do these things for a living and have more knowledge about these things than most of us could ever hope to obtain, and who bring us the very products that make this forum possible. OORAH!?
    Very well said Cincinnatus. Oh and its spelled HOOAH.

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    ETA:

    markm,

    I would think this being a keymod rail you would want this baby aborted before birth!!
    Last edited by jaxman7; 07-25-13 at 11:02.


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    Smile Rail specs

    I would like to say I am glad someone else is coming out with a keymod rail that will be quality. I have 1 15" and 3 13.5 " NSR rails atm. while I do love these rails and have them on all my guns. There are several improvements that can be made.

    I have noticed that the top picatiny rail is slightly lower than the receiver portion on NSR's.

    The plastic panels I do not like, but I use them.

    The keymod attachments always need to have a long or short rail section for mods to be attached. Direct attachment is preferred. This will move the item closer to the rail and be more stream lined.

    Barrel nut seems to always be tightened down to between 70-80 lbs. This is a little tight for my taste, but it works. I actually like the barrel nut, its clean and simple to put on.

    After taking Costa's class, I can say the gun with a NSR points very well, as well as helping have good hand placement and retention.

    I cannot say if lighter and smaller would be a positive note. This being due to the size of your hand. Bigger hands tend to wrap around the whole gun more, leaving you with less of a "meatyer" feeling. Guys with larger hands may want more diameter. This could possibly be from years of 1913 style rails. In essence, sometimes a bit more is better for guys with larger hands. I have short fingers, so the NSR, is the bomb imho. Its very clean and grippy.
    I also have the KAC rubber thumb stop on top to allow me to have the same exact hand placement every time.

    A new rail should be an evolution of the standard (NSR) since he came out with one first.
    Let's not forget KAC is coming out with theirs soon (I hope) which looks very good also.
    At class Costa had one with his attachments directly to it, this I liked. Rubber panels I liked also. I am not a Costa fanboy, but a KAC fan boy. Nothing shoots like them.

    There will be minor differences is rails, but what I would like to see is someone create some cool mods to attach to the rail in a clean and efficient manner.

    Thankyou BCM for coming out with good products at fare prices. More products = a better choice for the consumer and better prices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    You must not deal with firearms industry reps much. Many of the large companies higher marketing/PR firms to run their FB and forum sections. These people know very little about the product, don't shoot and are generally NOT gun guys from my experience.

    So yes a "rep" is SUPPOSED to know his "stuff", but that is rarely the case in this industry from my experience.
    Can't argue otherwise since you have a lot more experience than (actually more than I will ever have ) I have dealing with industry reps. Now here is to hoping folks here wait for the rail specs to be released.

    wilson1911, do you know when KAC is releasing their rail?
    Last edited by gesundheit; 07-25-13 at 12:09.

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    kac rail

    They are working on ecm's atm. So I would bet 1 year knowing them.

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