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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    I agree with Stickman. I am steering clear of this thread any longer.
    You are just saying that because of the stupid people.

    Heaven forbid the mistake was ever made to put me in any position of power over here, I would simply shut down the accounts of the trolling ignorant people. Sure, that would cut back a bit on the total numbers, but this board was founded with a specific goal.

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    This thread went downhill fast

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockhopper View Post
    This thread went downhill fast
    Always does when people start crying about prices. You gotta pay to play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZINCOGNITO View Post
    By that logic your rifles shouldn't cost more than $400. I mean, it's only aluminum and plastic.
    agreed. i mean the specs are out there for anyone than wants to manufacturer ar rifles. how come there aren't cheap ar rifles rifles? i mean a part is a part right? .......oh wait.

    this aint amazon.com
    Got BCM?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SigSlave View Post
    a tube of metal.
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    This alone shows no bounds to your ignorance on anything of which you speak. Please read more an post less, especially about things you have no clue about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stickman View Post

    One of the very specific things I was told before this board was ever public was that it was going to be free from the behavior that is prevalent on another board. It was also going to be a professional resource to interface with the serious members of the firearm community.
    Oops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richdkim77 View Post
    Always does when people start crying about prices. You gotta pay to play.
    I think i should apologize here as somehow i started this shit storm. All i meant to say was that BCM has a knack for taking expensive concepts/products and making them available for less (battle comp vs bcm comp). And that if they could do that with this rail (NSR vs bcm rail) they would DOMINATE the market. This was a response to a person who commented that they could not see any possible way for this rail to be revolutionary.

    I wasn't trying to say a highly engineered rail isn't worth 300/350, or that bcm was ripping anyone off (i had/have no clue what price this rail will be at). I didn't mean for all the olympic arms, WW, Bushy, DPMS, Stag "your just paying for the name" bandwagon to come out of the woodwork and jump in the boat with me.

    ***With that being said. I do have confidence that whatever price BCM sets for this rail will be extremely fair. I cannot think of ONE example of an OVERPRICED piece of gear that BCM makes. My point was that it their price for the rail could be revolutionary, just as it is for their uppers. For F*cks sake they sell their upped for 450 bucks. You can buy an upper, bcg and blem lower making a great gun for 1k!****
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoNeanderthal View Post
    I think i should apologize here as somehow i started this shit storm. All i meant to say was that BCM has a knack for taking expensive concepts/products and making them available for less (battle comp vs bcm comp). And that if they could do that with this rail (NSR vs bcm rail) they would DOMINATE the market. This was a response to a person who commented that they could not see any possible way for this rail to be revolutionary.

    I wasn't trying to say a highly engineered rail isn't worth 300/350, or that bcm was ripping anyone off (i had/have no clue what price this rail will be at). I didn't mean for all the olympic arms, WW, Bushy, DPMS, Stag "your just paying for the name" bandwagon to come out of the woodwork and jump in the boat with me.

    ***With that being said. I do have confidence that whatever price BCM sets for this rail will be extremely fair. I cannot think of ONE example of an OVERPRICED piece of gear that BCM makes. My point was that it their price for the rail could be revolutionary, just as it is for their uppers. For F*cks sake they sell their upped for 450 bucks. You can buy an upper, bcg and blem lower making a great gun for 1k!****
    So I come in to defend your statement about wanting a high quality rail for a decent price and you lump me into the Bushmaster and Olympic wanna be commando crowd? You know nothing about me, who I am or what I do for a living or my plans for the future. I was backing up your comment and you throw me under the bus? That's funny.

    Never did I once say that buying a BCM product was "paying for the name". Actually, twice I have said that BCM makes great products. The ONLY point I was trying to make before these "Serious" members of the firearms biz jumped on me was that free float prices are out of control and it would be nice for BCM to make this tube at a reasonable price. You know, the exact same thing you said.

    I'm in the wrong biz, apparently. I guess in order to be taken seriously around here, you either need to be a factory certified armorer (repair man) or a photographer.

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    Re: New BCM rail

    Quote Originally Posted by NeoNeanderthal View Post

    ***With that being said. I do have confidence that whatever price BCM sets for this rail will be extremely fair. I cannot think of ONE example of an OVERPRICED piece of gear that BCM makes. My point was that it their price for the rail could be revolutionary, just as it is for their uppers. For F*cks sake they sell their upped for 450 bucks. You can buy an upper, bcg and blem lower making a great gun for 1k!****
    I have no doubt that BCM's pricing will be competitive AND fair. It's not our place to tell them what we think is fair. Quite frankly, it is ridiculous to me that We, the membership of M4C have allowed this thread to evolve as it has. You should know better and behave according to the standards of M4C. IMO, the mods have been extremely gracious in allowing this to go on as long as it has. We all know the rules here and if you don't, you should not type one single more syllable until you do. (Neo, this isn't directed at you specifically)

    Regarding the rail, I'm keenly interested in it and looking forward to official release details. Unfortunately, people just want to talk out of their rear ends in the absence of facts just because they have time on their hands and think their opinions should direct how a company develops a product and how they should do business. I think BCM is keenly aware of what their target customer base wants and needs, as shown time and time again by what products they bring to market. They have high quality standards and do not produce poorly conceived products. Let's just cut out all this speculative, self-important BS and wait to see what they have actually come up with.

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    Putting on the Mod hat now:

    If anyone has some substantive technical discussion regarding the actual rail in question, go ahead and post it.

    If you want to turn this into an accounting class on cost of goods sold, I'm positive I can help you with that. My private consulting rates do not come cheap, however.

    Let's leave the accounting theories to another forum. BCM has a very well-deserved reputation for quality and affordability. I know that because I'm a customer.

    If you want this thread to stay open, read and heed.

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