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Thread: What's so great about the Vltor A5 ? ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by krichbaum View Post
    I use the A5 buffer system because a single buffer weight and spring combination works across a wider variety of variables that affect function. I'm always swapping lowers and uppers, shooting suppressed and unsuppressed, shooting different ammo, etc. The A5 system just works for me no matter what. I even use my 9mm setup with the standard A5 buffer and have no issues at all.

    Not needed? That's something that each user needs to decide for themselves. To me the A5 most definitely serves a purpose.
    What he said. Very true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glocktogo View Post
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    I have read through all of the threads related to this piece of kit and am still trying to figure out which spring (Springco or factory) and buffer combination is recommended for a suppressed/unsuppressed 14.7 in upper with a carbine length gas system. What say ye?
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    I'd consider adding one on a future project. Right now my SR-15 will reliably eat anything I feed it, and since it's a perfectly tuned rifle out of the box I want to ensure it stays that way. God forbid there come a day when I can't pick and choose the type of ammo it gets fed, and I'm left with no other choice but to use whatever I can find, whether it be cheap Russian steel case stuff or whatever. I've learned that adding an A5 will make the SR-15 a more finicky eater. I don't want finicky. I need reliability. No need to fix what ain't broke just for a marginal gain in recoil management. And I really don't have the time nor energy to find the perfect spring/buffer/ammo combo to make the A5 work right on my gun. However, I'm very interested in trying it out on a future build down the road. I'm sure it's everything folks make it out to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd00000 View Post
    Can you use the A5 buffer without the M16 buffer tube and spring?
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    The a5 has its own buffer tube and uses the rifle spring. It uses no other tube but its own.
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    To expand on that a bit, the A5 buffer tube is 0.75" longer than the standard one. It has to be longer to accommodate the longer buffer. There is a specific A5 tube, but the AR10 tube will also work as its the same length. You just lose the first stock position hole IIRC (I'm using the AR10 tube on one of mine with a sopmod stock).
    To expand on this a bit more, check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnrVJT4UU10

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    Alright, so I'm in the process of building up a new lower from parts. I thinking of setting it up with the A5 system. The upper it will be dedicated to is my 16" Noveske LW Mid length SS barrel, WMD Guns auto carrier, BattleComp. What would the recommended buffer set-up be?

    I also remember reading somewhere that you can run the iMod stock on the A5 instead of the longer EMod? I might have dreamt it but is there a specific A5 buffer tube designed to work specifically with the shorter iMod.

    Thanks in advance for any advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickdrak View Post
    Alright, so I'm in the process of building up a new lower from parts. I thinking of setting it up with the A5 system. The upper it will be dedicated to is my 16" Noveske LW Mid length SS barrel, WMD Guns auto carrier, BattleComp. What would the recommended buffer set-up be?

    I also remember reading somewhere that you can run the iMod stock on the A5 instead of the longer EMod? I might have dreamt it but is there a specific A5 buffer tube designed to work specifically with the shorter iMod.

    Thanks in advance for any advice.
    If you're building a lower, no reason not to use an A5. Noveske mid length gas systems are designed to work well with rifle buffers, and indeed my 16-inch Light Recce has worked great with a standard A5 over 5000 rounds, two carbine courses.

    There's only one A5 buffer tube. It works fine with any stock, but the tube itself is slightly longer than a standard carbine tube so a standard-length stock is slightly too short to close fully. On my A5, I just used the regular iMod that I already had. Only difference is a slightly larger gap between stock and endplate in the fully-collapsed position. The VLTOR tubes have position numbers on them which show through a little window on VLTOR stocks. Nice little touch.
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    For those who say that their AR is reliable enough without an A5 RE, Im not sure how you would notice an increase in reliability unless you had a problematic gun in the first place or are constantly running your gun in extreme conditions.

    I believe there is a SME on here who ran a HK 416 10.3" suppressed upper on both the stock RE and buffer combination as well as an A5 and found that lowered the cyclic rate and decreased the number of malfunctions in full auto use.

    It is also proven that the A5 does increase controllability no matter how small the increase maybe. Its probably safe to say that most shooters are not yet at the level where the small reduction in recoil is enough to show a significant decrease in split times but can be a god send for those who do, especially if they do not wish to use an obnoxious muzzle device to lessen recoil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hmac View Post
    If you're building a lower, no reason not to use an A5.
    1. "A standard-length stock is too short to close fully."
    2. Not shooting suppressed. I don't know of real uppers that would have cyclic rate issues running H or H2 and AFAIK most guns have the gas ports tuned from the shop for those.
    3. You're paying over $40 for a buffer, although they do have a few more pieces.

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