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    Quote Originally Posted by nml View Post
    1. "A standard-length stock is too short to close fully."
    2. Not shooting suppressed. I don't know of real uppers that would have cyclic rate issues running H or H2 and AFAIK most guns have the gas ports tuned from the shop for those.
    3. You're paying over $40 for a buffer, although they do have a few more pieces.
    Yeah, people don't get it. The only change is that the very shortest length of pull, available only on a carbine buffer tube, is no longer available. If you just have to shoot your rifle with the stock completely collapsed, position 1, then the A5 isn't for you. If you shoot with your stock at position 2 or greater then it makes no difference. The A5 eMod stock is a little longer than a regular VLTOR stock so that when fully collapsed, the stock is flush with the endplate. If that cosmetic-only gap is important to you then the A5 isn't a good choice.

    I can't speak to suppressors...don't use 'em.

    The increased cost is of no importance to me if I get sufficient value out of the device, and I do. If I had to make up the difference, I'd save the money by getting MBUS for my useless backup sights instead of Troy.
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    i run tubbs flatwire recoil spring and H3 buffer..standard carbean stock.
    runs perfect.
    on a rifle length green mountain pencil barrel upper.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peabody View Post
    i run tubbs flatwire recoil spring and H3 buffer..standard carbean stock.
    runs perfect.
    on a rifle length green mountain pencil barrel upper.
    Have you tried an A5 on that setup?
    can you compare that setup with the A5 and show any data or experience that would show it is better or worse?
    the reason why I ask is there are members on here that have documented their success with multiple upper setups. And your success with one set up does not mean the A5 doest not work, it might even work better. Without data you dont know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nml View Post
    1. "A standard-length stock is too short to close fully."
    2. Not shooting suppressed. I don't know of real uppers that would have cyclic rate issues running H or H2 and AFAIK most guns have the gas ports tuned from the shop for those.
    3. You're paying over $40 for a buffer, although they do have a few more pieces.
    As for number 2, I suppose enhanced buffer springs and heavy buffers are only for those running suppressed too right?

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    Re: What's so great about the Vltor A5 ? ?

    I have a close friend who uses the tubbs and an h3. I used to use that as well. The A5 is superior in terms of shootability, though both ran well on 16" & 14.5" BCM middy uppers. My bud uses a BCM 16" middy as well.

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    Just snagged a A5 spring and buffer kit from the BCM web site. Looks like they are still in stock for anyone interested!

    Looking forward to trying this out on a 16" 6920.

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    I must be one of the super rare people that have built dozens of rifles in various configurations and gas systems.......and have never had buffer related issues. Carbine, H, H2, whatever is on hand at the time.

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    It's not about problems. I agree that one could build a lower using a standard tube and buffer (H, H2, H3) and the rifle/carbine would be just fine.

    But, the A5 when done correctly will allow you to use a wide variety of uppers on one lower. In my experience with it, it almost guarantees that you will have more reliability and control.

    I suspect that most of the experience you have is also with military weapons where there is virtually no difference in port sizes, operating systems, etc....

    Quote Originally Posted by TurretGunner View Post
    I must be one of the super rare people that have built dozens of rifles in various configurations and gas systems.......and have never had buffer related issues. Carbine, H, H2, whatever is on hand at the time.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dentron View Post
    Have you tried an A5 on that setup?
    can you compare that setup with the A5 and show any data or experience that would show it is better or worse?
    the reason why I ask is there are members on here that have documented their success with multiple upper setups. And your success with one set up does not mean the A5 doest not work, it might even work better. Without data you dont know.

    this is true .. i have no experience with an A5 .
    never have seen one.
    i prolly wont either. thats kinda expensive.
    Canada has used a plain ol carbean stock for years in their military.
    mine works just fine. like ive said it works.
    it ain't broke.. so ? why ?
    i started this life with nothing.....kept most of it.

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    Re: What's so great about the Vltor A5 ? ?

    I find it interesting that the people that keep bringing up the cost of the A5, have no issue dropping $150 on a muzzle device.

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