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    Quote Originally Posted by xwarp View Post
    Well, for those that don't "speeka da englis" as well as you do, explain what you meant when you wrote:

    "from a company that doesn't even own a torque wrench (sarcasm)"

    Granted I only have average intelligence, but I "got" what he meant by the "(sarcasm)" of WW not even owning a torque wrench. He was alluding to the improbable idea that a manufacturer of AR 15's doesn't even possess a rudimentary tool, such as a torque wrench, let alone tools and machines of even a more complex nature required to manufacture and assemble AR-15's, and yet that is precisely what they are doing, thus calling into question the process and quality of said AR-15's produced.

    I for one appreciate your presence in this thread, because intentionally or unintentionally, you are proving the point of the OP and many of the posters on this thread soundly. Thank you for your contribution (sarcasm).

    In all seriousness my military time was 23+ years ago. I was infantry, and hardly G-ds gift to M-16's/AR-15's. So 6 years ago I came across this forum, while owning a sub-par CMMG, (oxymoron). I read, I learned, and I listened, and I kept an open mind. The amount of industry and military knowledge on this sight dwarfs other locations on the error net handily. Like others have said why wouldn't I listen to these pros, especially the former military people that have BTDT, and do instruction, and have seen literally thousands of AR's from assorted manufacturers come through their classes, and have demonstrably shown on a consistent basis, that your BCM's, Colts, and Daniel Defense's perform from start to stop, while your Bushmasters, CMMG's, Deltons, Olympics, and Rock Rivers don't perform well from start to finish.

    However I agree in that, YOU as in YOU, and nobody else, ARE probably well served by your Windham for what you're doing with it, i.e. not going into battle, and doing some limited shooting. Good luck.

    Best,

    Dave
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    Quote Originally Posted by F-Trooper05 View Post
    If your Windham had cost half as much as a Colt or BCM I'd say you have a point, but the fact that you saved maybe $200 by buying a gun from a company that doesn't even own a torque wrench (sarcasm) has me scratching my head.
    See the screen name now bud?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D.S. Brown View Post
    Granted I only have average intelligence, but I "got" what he meant by the "(sarcasm)" of WW not even owning a torque wrench. He was alluding to the improbable idea that a manufacturer of AR 15's doesn't even possess a rudimentary tool, such as a torque wrench, let alone tools and machines of even a more complex nature required to manufacture and assemble AR-15's, and yet that is precisely what they are doing, thus calling into question the process and quality of said AR-15's produced.

    I for one appreciate your presence in this thread, because intentionally or unintentionally, you are proving the point of the OP and many of the posters on this thread soundly. Thank you for your contribution (sarcasm).

    In all seriousness my military time was 23+ years ago. I was infantry, and hardly G-ds gift to M-16's/AR-15's. So 6 years ago I came across this forum, while owning a sub-par CMMG, (oxymoron). I read, I learned, and I listened, and I kept an open mind. The amount of industry and military knowledge on this sight dwarfs other locations on the error net handily. Like others have said why wouldn't I listen to these pros, especially the former military people that have BTDT, and do instruction, and have seen literally thousands of AR's from assorted manufacturers come through their classes, and have demonstrably shown on a consistent basis, that your BCM's, Colts, and Daniel Defense's perform from start to stop, while your Bushmasters, CMMG's, Deltons, Olympics, and Rock Rivers don't perform well from start to finish.

    However I agree in that, YOU as in YOU, and nobody else, ARE probably well served by your Windham for what you're doing with it, i.e. not going into battle, and doing some limited shooting. Good luck.

    Best,

    Dave
    I'd bet he'd prefer to have other believe that they don't have any "rudimentary tools" in their shop, but can he prove it? If he can't, then he should not be making statements that infer a company is producing a product a questionable nature.

    I think it's pretty damn ignorant to make such statements, sarcasm or not, without having any first hand knowledge.

    I am happy to be of service. I guess I should apologize that I don't fit in with the apparent elite of this board.

    Funny how no one in this thread bothered to ask if I owned any other rifles. Maybe they were too busy stroking their net ego's by berating anyone that didn't take the Colt fanatics words of wisdom as gospel.

    It is what it is.

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    xwarp, I just read back through this, and you lit the candle on it.

    Since you can't keep it civil, you can shut your hole. Yes, I don't care what you're saying, but the manner in which you're doing it is, quite frankly, stupid and more snotty than any "elitist" BS.

    If you can't do any better than treating a clearly sarcastic statement as a factual one and build a (stupid) argument around it....congrats, you're ready to run for public office.

    Stop posting in this thread.
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    Last edited by JSantoro; 08-05-13 at 08:52. Reason: Trying to get The Last Word never works

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    For those just as good as people, ask them why the Chilean Marines adopted the Colt M4 and why DPMS did not even pass inspection.

    http://www.infodefensa.com/?noticia=...ia=&pais=Chile

    ETA: Jsantor.... Your my hero, that edit was great!
    Last edited by sinlessorrow; 08-05-13 at 08:57.
    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    Colt builds War Horses, not show ponies.
    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    This is 2012. The world is going to end this December and people are still trying to debate the merits of piece of shit, cost cutting crap AR's. Really?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post
    For those just as good as people, ask them why the Chilean Marines adopted the Colt M4 and why DPMS did not even pass inspection.

    http://www.infodefensa.com/?noticia=...ia=&pais=Chile
    wow, its right there in plain spanish! "due to problems encountered" with the weapon by special forces

    i had another guy on a truck forum yesterday wanting to buy a stag, i offered him some other options (colt or bcm) which were (colt) only $100 more. guess he likes stag!!! i posted links to this thread and another, told him to do some honest reading, but there is only so much one can do!!
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    It is amazing that these posters armed with their limited knowledge, strong opinions, and attitude expect to be be respected, much less last very long.

    They must not at least read some here to get a feel for the board before posting?

    Thankfully the mods keep this sort of thing in check!

    Back OT to the OP - I don't think it is worth looking for or making your own "definitive article", just a few good comments then send them here to learn.
    If that does not work, so what?
    At least you tried.

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    Fireside chat, for everybody aboard:

    If you get told to stop posting in a thread, please bear in mind you're being extended a penalty-free "out" from whatever unproductive freaky-deaky nonsense that led up to that point and has gotten one to the brink of getting infracted.

    It means STOP. It does not mean "Hey now, tut-tut, you stop posting after you make one more post for the sake of something hip and edgy, you bad boy, you...."

    I'm not stupid enough to put forward some kind of "We can make you WISH you'd listened..." kind of nonsense; it's the internet., ffs.

    However, if one decides to fire off a last salvo, and thinks it's gonna see the light of day...?

    That's an even dumber idea than sallying forth with the argument that advocates spending $1000 on a rifle that's materially worth only $700
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinlessorrow View Post
    For those just as good as people, ask them why the Chilean Marines adopted the Colt M4 and why DPMS did not even pass inspection.

    http://www.infodefensa.com/?noticia=...ia=&pais=Chile

    ETA: Jsantor.... Your my hero, that edit was great!
    Says a lot. The Jordanian army uses some DPMS and Red Jacket...

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