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Thread: Knights, Daniel or Tavor (Opinions Please)

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    Quote Originally Posted by amac View Post
    Op, I can't comment for two of your three, but I have purchased 2 SR15's and ran them in 3gun. I have since sold one completely and sold the upper off the other. I agree with the comments about a KAC's accuracy. They are more of a fighting purpose gun than precision purpose gun. Depending on your intended use, keep that in mind.

    The lower I kept is part of my SBR. KAC lowers are top notch. I really like the placement and nature of the ambi controls. Compared to my first AR - an M&P - my KAC has a feel that says quality. Mine have accepted any and all accessories I've attached to it. I've tried several different uppers on my KAC lower and they all lock up tight. The attention to spec definitely sets these apart.

    The uppers and barrel systems are okay. Sure the intermediate gas system is smooth. The weight and design of the upper/lower is balanced. But, so is my rifle length Noveske set up. Noveske also offers an intermediate gas system. What's more, the upper components are proprietary. Contrary to most KAC lovers, it is a pain in the ass to have to source "special" replacement parts. In a SHTF scenario, I'd rather rummage for spare parts that are more common than less. Add to that, if you want to change out your rail system, then be prepared to spend a wad on a proprietary barrel wrench and or to send off your upper to someone that has one.The price you quoted is a good deal for a KAC. I'd have to see how it's spec'd out to know how good of a deal you're getting. The newer Knights rails are better than their old quad rails. I haven't shopped Knights in a while and am not aware of the typical package being offered. However, before committing to anything, check this out and see what you think. http://www.gungalleryjax.com/armory/...-NSR-24p40.htm Enjoy.
    Who has time to replace broken parts in a no-shit SHTF scenario? I'd be ditching broke guns for working guns I'm pulling off dead bodies. Or at least salvaging parts I need like complete uppers. Not saying KACs are infallable, but the reason why we invest in these systems is because it's an improvement on a proven design with components designed to significantly outlast their non-proprietary counterparts. If all hell break loose and my E3 takes a shit and I don't have any spare parts on hand... well then I guess I can think back to this thread and say to myself "You know, they were right.", before I pull out the Sig and go out in a blaze of glory...

    All fantasy BS aside, and as previously stated, the proprietary parts argument is a non-argument. Do what you like.
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    Buddy you can't buy that SR-15 fast enough.
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    Re: Knights, Daniel or Tavor (Opinions Please)

    Quote Originally Posted by Boba Fett v2 View Post
    a no-shit SHTF scenario?
    Would that be a "HTF" scenario then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    Would that be a "HTF" scenario then?
    It's where somebody grabs you and starts mashing your face into a running fan.

    Not pleasant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    Would that be a "HTF" scenario then?
    A no-shit SHTF scencario would be a real SHTF scenario as opposed to a normal SHTF scenario that implies a fantasy SHTF scenario which doesn't necessarily qualify as a no-shit SHTF scenario.
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    I agree that the proprietary parts is a non issue, but if you can't wrap your mind around the fact that they probably won't break/wear out, then buy some spare parts or better yet a second SR.

    Does anybody making the parts argument own a scar,308 AR, FAL, old or new glock, sig or hk,1911? Amazingly enough all their parts aren't interchangeable. So I have declared this argument invalid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apetrulis01 View Post
    Hello:

    I am wondering which AR I should purchase next. I have a S&W Magpul Midlength which I love but I am getting a bonus from work so I figured I would treat myself to a higher end Rifle. I am looking at the following Rifles:

    - Knights S15 Mod 1
    - Daniel Defense (V7 or V1)
    - Tavor

    Is the knights worth paying the extra money. I like that the Tavor has the overall length of a 10.5 inch AR. Let me know your opinions.

    Thanks,
    Adam
    were i you, it would depend entirely on the size of the bonus.
    can you "finish" the KAC with optic, light, mounts, sling, etc. within the bonus amount?
    or do you "settle" for a DD with most of that stuff for the same amount?

    as another poster said, and esp since you're an LEO, i'd step up to another AR that is top quality before going on a tangent with the Tavor.
    (don't get me wrong, i like the tavor and will probably get one some day)

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    I was fortunate enough to fire one last weekend. This is not the experience I had. Once I got over how the trigger felt (very odd) It was more accurate than my BCM middy.

    Quote Originally Posted by maw1777 View Post
    Tavor has the accuracy of a mini-14
    98% Sarcastic. 100% Overthinking things and making up reasons for buying a new firearm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boba Fett v2 View Post
    A no-shit SHTF scencario would be a real SHTF scenario as opposed to a normal SHTF scenario that implies a fantasy SHTF scenario which doesn't necessarily qualify as a no-shit SHTF scenario.
    So a no-shit shit hit the fan scenario is actually an extra-shit shit hit the fan scenario?

    Man, that's bad marketing. Like if sugar-free gum was actually extra-sugar gum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    So a no-shit shit hit the fan scenario is actually an extra-shit shit hit the fan scenario?

    Man, that's bad marketing. Like if sugar-free gum was actually extra-sugar gum.
    Negative. A no-shit shit hit the fan scenario implies a real-world-everything-gone-to-hell-I-wouldn't-be-on-the-internet-fantasizing-about-a-probable-shit-hit-the-fan-scenario scenario. Unlike extra sugar-free gum...
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