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Thread: Knights, Daniel or Tavor (Opinions Please)

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    I've owned both KAC and DD. Both are great but I don't have the DD anymore. It was sold at the first of the year to make room for some more KAC.

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    If a SR15 is on your list, everything else is a waste of money.

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    SR15 without a doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BufordTJustice View Post
    Correct. IIRC it is an SR25 gas tube repurposed for the AR15.

    It's mo-bettah. Wes at MSTN has been using custom Noveske barrels ported at the Noveske "intermediate" gas port position, which is just slightly shorter than KAC's SR15 port length. He can't build those guns fast enough.
    Cool! Are the barrels special order? Or cut down 18"?
    Does the E3 bolt require a specific barrel extension?

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    Quote Originally Posted by maw1777 View Post
    Tavor has the accuracy of a mini-14
    I can run a mini-14 better than a lot of guys can run an AR. I also can put head shots consistently on target with a mini-14 at 100 yards. The recoil impulses and action motion on a mini-14 are milder than an AR, so most people will be able to shoot a mini-14 faster and more accurately than a stock AR. they get a bad rap on this forum, most likely from guys who haven't run a few hundred rounds through them. I understand buying good ARs. I bought a BCM because of the knowledge I gained on this forum, however if the Tavor runs like a mini-14 it will be more than enough to be an effective weapon. The mini-14, the Tavor, any AR above a franken-gun, is going to be more accurate and more reliable than I am on my best day. Sure the mini-14 doesn't have the track record for being "reliable" (whatever that can mean) but I'd like to see someone kick a malfunction clear on an AR. Its not a sub par weapon despite the negative press it gets on the interwebs. Look at all the people shot and killed with Hi-Point pistols. I consider that a sub par weapon, but is that not a tool that can fufill its purpose? Quality control should be better than what it is at Ruger, but that doesn't mean the design is worthless. Sorry to hijack the thread. Bottom line: if you find a mini-14 or a tavor in the zombie apocolypse, I bet you will be slaying the zombies just fine.
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    I considered the KAC 300BLK SBR, but went with Daniel Defense instead because I liked the barrel on the DD gun better, and the Daniel Defense (even taking the SOPMOD stock into account) is a half pound lighter. The 16" guns are almost identical in weight.

    That said, KAC does have some cool features. Most of which I will install on my DD (Combat trigger guard, Geissele trigger, SOPMOD stock, etc.). I train to use standard controls and they work fine for me even shooting support-side, so that's a "CDI" factor (kindof like the trigger-guard, but hey, I like it, so I won't judge!).

    Like someone else said, you shoot enough to break the bolt? A new bolt is peanuts compared to the ammo, and a new BCG for a DD costs less than just the Bolt on the KAC, so even the cost vs. cost apples/apples comes up shot.

    I have a DD rifle already, in addition to the SBR I am waiting on, and it's been great.

    I have NOT shot a KAC.

    What does the KAC offer that I am missing? I am aware that "intangibles" exist, but what are they, here?
    Last edited by WS6; 08-06-13 at 06:27.

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    If you can get a SR15 for that much get me one too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilson1911 View Post
    I am going to vote for Kac. the only one of those rifles I have not owned is the DD. I did shoot one at class and did not care much for weight, or trigger.
    I also run geissle and kac triggers, along with NSR rails. the kac shoots better than any other rifle I have shot. this is not saying the others are bad, it's just a cut above all the others. I also own a Noveske, which you might want to consider. But for the price of a Nov, you can get a kac.

    Do not let the proprietary parts thing hinder your decision if you are even close to thinking about one. If you can find someone who owns one, go shoot it, but be warned !!!!!!!! you will end up buying one. There is that much difference is how it shoots. While they are not the most accurate, they are the best shooters. If you want accuracy, go Noveske.
    My brothers kac is a tac driver tho. he can almost out shoot me using his m4s vs my short dot.

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    So KAC is not that accurate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    I have NOT shot a KAC.

    What does the KAC offer that I am missing? I am aware that "intangibles" exist, but what are they, here?
    Read the "What makes the KAC so great?" thread on this forum.

    Quote Originally Posted by apetrulis01 View Post
    So KAC is not that accurate?
    He's saying the opposite, dude.

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    He stated: While they are not the most accurate, they are the best shooters. If you want accuracy, go Noveske.
    My brothers kac is a tac driver tho. he can almost out shoot me using his m4s vs my short dot.

    He stated his brother's is accurate, but seems not as a whole. Just wondering.
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