Offset BUIS or Offset Red Dot?

[Failure2Stop]

I know KAC just put out an offset version of their highly regarded BUS, but they're flip-ups. I don't really get the concept of flip-up offset irons. I always thought the whole point behind offsets was to have a back up sighting system in place and ready for use. Having to deploy them seems counter-intuitive to me, but I've never used offsets so maybe I'm just talking outta my arse here. I would gladly defer to the opinions of individuals who have actually used them.

Personally, if I was going to give them a try I would take a hard look at the Surefire set. They're a bit pricey, but Surefire puts out top quality gear.

http://www.surefire.com/tactical-equ...on-sights.html

The flip ups give the option to stow the sights when not needed/wanted. Fixed offsets can be a significant snag-hazard in a place that frequently has stuff going on. Just like traditional flip-ups, you can run them in the "up" position all the time if that's what you want and they will still protect themselves from impact by flipping down instead of bearing the brunt of the damage.



Typos brought to you via Tapatalk and autocorrect.

[SteveL]

The flip ups give the option to stow the sights when not needed/wanted. Fixed offsets can be a significant snag-hazard in a place that frequently has stuff going on. Just like traditional flip-ups, you can run them in the "up" position all the time if that's what you want and they will still protect themselves from impact by flipping down instead of bearing the brunt of the damage.

I was just going to ask your opinion on this very issue, but you beat me to it. Thanks for this bit of info. I had not considered the problem of being a snag hazard.

[Failure2Stop]

F2S I know you work for KAC, but as you're a true expert here, I'm curious what your thoughts are on offset irons that flip down. Am I off base in my thinking as I spelled it out above?

I did a brief explanation about 2 seconds before you posted. If you want more info, just let me know.

ETA: that sounds harsh, not my intent. I assume that you were writing your post as I hit submit.

Typos brought to you via Tapatalk and autocorrect.

[Boba Fett v2]

I know KAC just put out an offset version of their highly regarded BUS, but they're flip-ups. I don't really get the concept of flip-up offset irons. I always thought the whole point behind offsets was to have a back up sighting system in place and ready for use. Having to deploy them seems counter-intuitive to me, but I've never used offsets so maybe I'm just talking outta my arse here. I would gladly defer to the opinions of individuals who have actually used them.

Personally, if I was going to give them a try I would take a hard look at the Surefire set. They're a bit pricey, but Surefire puts out top quality gear.

http://www.surefire.com/tactical-equ...on-sights.html

I'm running the off-set KAC flip-up BUIS right now and I wouldn't have it any other way. When I need them they're easy to deploy. When I'm running drills they're going to be deployed anyway. If I don't need them I can flip them down and they're out of the way. A lot of benefits to having off-set flip-up irons.

[SteveL]

I did a brief explanation about 2 seconds before you posted. If you want more info, just let me know.



Typos brought to you via Tapatalk and autocorrect.

No I'm good, but thank you. I think we were posting at the same time and I changed my post after seeing that you had already addressed my question.

ETA: And I didn't take it as being harsh at all.

[SteveL]

I'm curious if there are any special considerations to take into account when zeroing offset irons or is it just like zeroing any regular set of sights? Do you still zero at 100 meters or something closer?


And OP I hope you don't feel like I'm trying to take over your thread. That's not my intent. By the time this discussion's over we both might be using offset irons.

[PatrioticDisorder]

Good discussion, Surefire set looks nice, but the KAC offsets perhaps seem like a better option even yet. I too am curious now that I woke up and the discussion has gotten to this point, what is the general consensus on what range to zero offset irons?

[Failure2Stop]

I'm curious if there are any special considerations to take into account when zeroing offset irons or is it just like zeroing any regular set of sights? Do you still zero at 100 meters or something closer?


And OP I hope you don't feel like I'm trying to take over your thread. That's not my intent. By the time this discussion's over we both might be using offset irons.

Personally, I like a 200 meter (or 2"-3" high at 100 meters) zero for irons. Especially for the ones that have the ability to be dialed for distance, as they tend to bottom out at 200.

It can be a bit difficult getting the gun in a solid position since it will be canted 45ish degrees. Bipods help (might only be able to use one leg), or you can use a front rest (my preference).

[Dragk913]

The flip ups give the option to stow the sights when not needed/wanted. Fixed offsets can be a significant snag-hazard in a place that frequently has stuff going on. Just like traditional flip-ups, you can run them in the "up" position all the time if that's what you want and they will still protect themselves from impact by flipping down instead of bearing the brunt of the damage.



Typos brought to you via Tapatalk and autocorrect.

Thanks for the write up, Jack. You definitely cleared up my concerns about running offset, flip up irons. I feel silly for thinking I had to get fixed BUIS.

[Biggy]

So do the KAC offset sights lock in the up and down position using a spring loaded detent, or do you have to depress a button to fold them up or down ?