I continue to use Gunzilla (BC-10) with great success. Even though it a CLP type product, it will do a real good job of loosening rust.
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I continue to use Gunzilla (BC-10) with great success. Even though it a CLP type product, it will do a real good job of loosening rust.
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Tennessee weather can be hard on firearms. Not the worst by any means, but certainly not the best. I have a friend that stores his rifles in soft cases (for years) and he recently discovered a fine rust on most of his rifles. It never happened before, but it has now. I don't trust any case for storage; a safe with heaters inside your living space is the only way to go here.
I can't add anything to the advice already given regarding rust removal.. Ron
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Yeap,the weather this year has been funky wet to.Ive had mold and mildew issues for the first time in the house this year.Causing me to buy a electric dehumidifier and Eva-Dry mini dehumidifiers for the lockers etc., as the AC apparently isn't keeping the RH acceptable in my 150 year old house.
That being said,I recently had a similar issue as the OP.
Had two AR's that developed some dark brownish green funk in the bores.Put dark green almost brown on a patch.Nothing on any of the other parts inside or out.Both chrome lined barrels.Bores were cleaned and lubed with CLP before being placed in the lockers.
Now Ive noted in the past that CLP tends to turn green after being exposed for a few weeks/months,but this was dark and thick enough to make me suspect corrosion.Couple dry and clean patches and the bores are nice,bright and clean.
Strange thing is the guns were in the same locker as some ole shooter grade RC Mauser K98K's and their bores were clean and bright.
So maybe its just a damp year but Ive never had these issues and Ive been in this house since 1989.Never had anything turn in a chrome lined bore either,so I guess its a first all around.
Last edited by Blankwaffe; 08-09-13 at 04:28. Reason: spellin
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I'm in Tennessee too...well, home is in Tennessee anyway...try Fluid Film.
Worst case...if you don't like it....its the best thing going for breaking loose rusty bolts, makes WD40 look like pee in a spray can...also works great sprayed on mower decks to keep the grass from sticking.
It will not be wasted money...the stuff is about $10 per can, but when your guns are mostly north of $1K as mine are...thats a small price to pay for peace of mind during long term storage.
Last edited by Ridgerunner665; 08-08-13 at 22:36.
Hey Ridge,
Ive got some Fluid Film in the shop and never thought of trying it on the guns,might give it a go.
Im pretty sure the issue I had was clearly a humidity issue which Im working to resolve for obvious reasons.I draw the line when I see mildew and mold on my stuff in the house.
It was strange to only see it in two chrome lined AR barrels out of a somewhat large assortment of current and surplus weapons.
To top that it was only in the bore and nowhere else on the AR's.
Those two rifles were the only one's that Ive cleaned with CLP in sometime.Was finishing off a bottle I had on the shelf and it was a couple years old.So the oil may have degraded overtime,don't know.
The majority of my weapons are lubed with Weapon Shield oil and grease, and they all looked like a new quarter.
So that tells me to stay with Weapon Shield,and I need to get my relative humidity under control.
Last edited by Blankwaffe; 08-09-13 at 04:29.
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Armed Protective Services II
Quick update.
Got it back from the smitty and $30 later. Had to split and knock the Ops Inc collar off as the allen screw was rusted in. Once that was done, we disassembled the rifle and cleaned it. There are still rust points on the exterior of the barrel but nothing bad. There are a few spots in the barrel where we can see rust spots, but nothing severe. Saturday I will go out and fire it for zero and see where and how it prints.
Two culprits. The pelcan case and cleaning the weapon and casing in high humidity. Wrong cleaning agent, which has been switched yet again. Another possible culprit was possibly when i had it painted during the winter, there was a lot of moisture in the air.
Right now there is less paint, but also much less rust. Oh, and now no Ops Inc collar. (Oh well).
Thanks everyone. I am going to look for different foam and all the other suggestions and go from there. Funny, I have been more concerned about my AK74 and Mosic when shooting corrisve ammo, and the weapon I expected less to rust does. Murphy can go to hell.
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I use lithium grease from a spray (rattle) can. I tried it for a couple years on a WASR 74, and had good luck. The white lithium grease oxidized to a tan color but the metal under it was rust free stored in foam case. Just remember to clean chamber before going to range. For me,'this worked well.
Last edited by onado2000; 08-09-13 at 05:15.
I think the lesson learned here is don't spray crazy shit all over your firearms. They're almost always unnecessary and often create problems. Desiccant is your best option. You can buy it in bulk from McMaster and with a little ingenuity make your own moisture traps. The packets and canisters are also available on Amazon. The great thing about desiccant is that it can be reactivated by warming it in your oven. It should just about last forever.
I never store my guns in a case.
Only case them for travel. Even then you need to be careful.
I learned that the hard way.
Headed to TN one hot September to shoot doves with a buddy that lives there.
Took my shotgun from the closet, (cool air conditioned storage), and stuck it in a case and put behind the seat of the truck (hot). I didn't take it out until the next day before the shoot. When I did there was rust everywhere on the gun.
Extreme temperature changes will cause metal to condensate and if moisture gets trapped in a case for any length of time most metals will rust or discolor.
I still have the gun and kick myself every time I see the scars.
Scoby
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