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    Nothing against Grant or BCM lowers, but what advantage does it have over this?

    http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...c-edition.html

    Or this (even better deal as it come with magpul stuff).
    http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...-magazine.html

    Ok, I see it had the standard buffer, (you can get a H for $15?) BCM grip and trigger guard... Other than that what's the difference?

    This is a serious question because I'd like to know what i would be getting for the $150 more over the PSA?

    I do have a 14.5" pinned BCM btw on the PSA lower in the 1st link provided... I have though about getting the BCM Lower to have a "complete" BCM. So I'm really interested to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShermanM4 View Post
    Nothing against Grant or BCM lowers, but what advantage does it have over this?

    http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...c-edition.html

    Or this (even better deal as it come with magpul stuff).
    http://palmettostatearmory.com/index...-magazine.html

    Ok, I see it had the standard buffer, (you can get a H for $15?) BCM grip and trigger guard... Other than that what's the difference?

    This is a serious question because I'd like to know what i would be getting for the $150 more over the PSA?

    I do have a 14.5" pinned BCM btw on the PSA lower in the 1st link provided... I have though about getting the BCM Lower to have a "complete" BCM. So I'm really interested to know.

    You really have to get into the weeds on stuff. For instance, the Receiver Extension from BCM is hammer extruded 7075 with dry film lube on the inside.

    The grip on the BCM has a $30 dollar grip on it and IMHO, the internals come from the best sources available. There were never any corners cut.

    Last but not least, resale value. Which product holds its value better?

    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=128135


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seagunner View Post
    Don't think it's going to matter what lower. Soon the bullet button will be outlawed in Cali and only sealed magwel lowers will be legal.
    Fortunately, this isn't true. There's going to be ways to keep your AR without having to register them.

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    A lower is a lower in my opinion. Its a chunk of metal that has to be correctly measured. Yes the measurements have to be pretty precise or its going to be a problem, but its not hard to pick up a micrometer or caliper. Some of the more expensive companies have cool ambidextrous features but I have never shot any different the right hand so I don't need that. You can get buy with some other more mainstream companies for a lower and go with quality parts elsewhere and it will work just as good. One thing is to jump on blemished lowers from manufactures.

    go PSA with a blemished A4 upper from BCM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K_K View Post
    A lower is a lower in my opinion...
    I agree. This is why I'm such a fan on MEGA, every one I've ever worked with has been dimensionally and cosmetically perfect. With MMS receivers priced as they are, it just isn't worth the risk to save a few dollars.

    Now if I were doing a "feel good" build I'd go KAC or Noveske depending on what I was going for...

    Plenty of other worthy receivers out there but those 3 are my personal picks. No use for billet...

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    You really have to get into the weeds on stuff. For instance, the Receiver Extension from BCM is hammer extruded 7075 with dry film lube on the inside.

    The grip on the BCM has a $30 dollar grip on it and IMHO, the internals come from the best sources available. There were never any corners cut.

    Last but not least, resale value. Which product holds its value better?

    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=128135


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    Do they source internal parts from various sources? Just curious because last year I bought a BCM lower and from what I can tell, it has a DPMS made hammer (or both companies get their hammers from the same source). I can't say this lower has made me all that interested in buying another lower from BCM.

    Pics of the lower. Note the "F1" marked hammer.


    Here is a pic I took of a DPMS LPK blister pack. Same "F1" on the hammer.

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    How do you know that someone doesn't make those parts for DPMS as well?

    Quote Originally Posted by SoDak View Post
    Do they source internal parts from various sources? Just curious because last year I bought a BCM lower and from what I can tell, it has a DPMS made hammer (or both companies get their hammers from the same source). I can't say this lower has made me all that interested in buying another lower from BCM.

    Pics of the lower. Note the "F1" marked hammer.


    Here is a pic I took of a DPMS LPK blister pack. Same "F1" on the hammer.



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    The Aero Precision stripped lowers from Brownells are very nice and in stock.

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    I asked DPMS about this once and provided the rep knew what they were talking about, it looks like they make them. Edit: Hope this screencap is easier to read.

    Last edited by SoDak; 08-16-13 at 20:35.

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    Some of the parts issues get pretty cloudy. I ve seen PSAs with parts marked the same as DDs. I have used and know of many others who have used DPMS lower parts kits. The only issue I have had and know of any of others to have is a broken hammer pin but that was bound to happen with an unshrouded carrier and Jard FCG. I replaced it a Colt pin and broke it too. Had to change the carrier and no more issues.

    I have three Colts but honestly shoot my others more that I have assembled from various sources. The only AR part I have ever broke is that pin mentioned above.

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