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    Quote Originally Posted by w3453l View Post
    If you guys don't mind me asking: regarding the KAC lowers being Ambi. Is it possible to make an LMT lower also ambi in the same way? Or is this only a feature available with the KAC's?
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    What is the best Lower to start with?

    Quote Originally Posted by w3453l View Post
    If you guys don't mind me asking: regarding the KAC lowers being Ambi. Is it possible to make an LMT lower also ambi in the same way? Or is this only a feature available with the KAC's?
    AXTS is also fully ambi.

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    I've built off of many lowers with no issues. Spikes Tactical (which I believe are made by Aero Precision, someone will correct me if I'm wrong), PSA, BCM, and unfortunately DPMS (luckily it was fine but I didn't know better). Don't get too caught up on the subject. Buy a spec lower from a reputable manufacturer and you should be G2G.
    Not sure about you guys, but I'm only here for the free food and open bar.

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    Actually the KAC lower is a fairly good deal when you consider it comes with the ambi release and safety, 2 stage trigger, QD mount and SOPMOD stock.

    What's the issue in CA, the ambi mag release?
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    Quote Originally Posted by smac61 View Post
    Actually the KAC lower is a fairly good deal when you consider it comes with the ambi release and safety, 2 stage trigger, QD mount and SOPMOD stock.

    What's the issue in CA, the ambi mag release?
    CA doesn't allow for a rifle that accepts detachable mags with "evil" features, such as a flash hider, collapsible stock etc, one must use a tool to drop the mag. So most of us who aren't running featureless use some variation of a bullet button that is installed in place of a normal mag release, and requires us to use something with a thin tip (like the tip of a bullet). A selling feature of a true ambi lower is to drop the mag from both sides, sure we can still use the ambi bolt catch, but why bother? Now for those of us running without "evil" features then it could make sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    You really have to get into the weeds on stuff. For instance, the Receiver Extension from BCM is hammer extruded 7075 with dry film lube on the inside.

    The grip on the BCM has a $30 dollar grip on it and IMHO, the internals come from the best sources available. There were never any corners cut.

    Last but not least, resale value. Which product holds its value better?

    https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=128135


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    Grant,
    Do you consider the BCM lower a better lower than the LMT defender lower, or are they fairly comparable? Specifically talking the quality of internals. Also, how do you think the LMT RE stacks up against the BCM RE?
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toyoland66 View Post
    Grant,
    Do you consider the BCM lower a better lower than the LMT defender lower, or are they fairly comparable? Specifically talking the quality of internals. Also, how do you think the LMT RE stacks up against the BCM RE?
    Thanks.
    I'm not Grant but I own both BCM and LMT lowers currently and have owned several LMT lowers. You can flip a coin. Same goes with Colt, Daniel Defense and Noveske. I currently own or have owned all of them. I think people get way too caught up in some of this stuff. I won't agree that a lower is a lower but I will say that a PSA will serve most people just fine. I choose to use the lowers above for two reasons: I use them for work and I like having a good resale value like Grant mentioned earlier in the thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toyoland66 View Post
    Grant,
    Do you consider the BCM lower a better lower than the LMT defender lower, or are they fairly comparable? Specifically talking the quality of internals. Also, how do you think the LMT RE stacks up against the BCM RE?
    Thanks.
    Assuming the lowers are following the TDP, I go down the line to the next item of importance (the LPK). I rank LPK's in this order:

    Colt
    LMT/KAC
    BCM/G&R/Noveske

    Next item, Receiver Extension. Per the TDP, they need to be 7075, hammer extruded, Type III HA and dry film lined.

    The only companies that follow these specs are Colt, BCM, LMT and I think KAC. So kind of a wash there.

    BCM lowers come with a mil-spec H buffer and one of the best grips on the market. The LMT lower does not offer these items. So BCM get the nod IMHO.


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    Grant,

    Is there a way to tell what make the RE or if it were made by following the TDP?

    Thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    I agree with Grant. I have a few BCM blemed lowers and it's ridiculous to call it a blem. They are full functional and ready to go. God made Krylon for a reason- use it.
    This! I grabbed one from Grant recently for a "truck gun" build and would hardly call it a blemished lower. I had to study it for 10-15 minutes to find the so called blemish!

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