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    What is the best Lower to start with?

    Rock River lower with BCM Upper And Geissele trigger is the way to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rugerspyderon View Post
    Rock River lower with BCM Upper And Geissele trigger is the way to go.
    And your reasons for choosing this lower above all others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smac61 View Post
    Actually the KAC lower is a fairly good deal when you consider it comes with the ambi release and safety, 2 stage trigger, QD mount and SOPMOD stock.

    What's the issue in CA, the ambi mag release?
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    CA doesn't allow for a rifle that accepts detachable mags with "evil" features, such as a flash hider, collapsible stock etc, one must use a tool to drop the mag. So most of us who aren't running featureless use some variation of a bullet button that is installed in place of a normal mag release, and requires us to use something with a thin tip (like the tip of a bullet). A selling feature of a true ambi lower is to drop the mag from both sides, sure we can still use the ambi bolt catch, but why bother? Now for those of us running without "evil" features then it could make sense
    The ambi mag release is not the issue with the KAC. KAC is a banned by name "assault rifle" (RAS, SR-15, and SR-25) in California and are not legal in any configuration. In other words, if it's banned by name, features like a mag release don't matter, and a bullet button does NOT make it compliant.

    See the CA rifle identification flowchart for a list of all banned by name weapons

    http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf

    For those unfamiliar with this chart, if you are going to own a semiautomatic centerfire rifle in CA, you need to know how to read it and follow it. Just adding one "wrong" part could make you a felon, cost you tens of thousands of dollars, and strip you of your 2A rights.

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    Yeah, I'll admit that I don't know too much about California gun laws since I live in United States of America.. But if Cali bans guns only buy the "names" of a certain "evil" firearm (uzi ,cobry,ak47 ect) or by the # or name of an AR lower (6920,lmt ect) I wouldn't sweat it at all because there's over a million AR manufactures and more seeming to come out of the woodwork every day. So with that said I would hope the chances you'd always be able to get a 'good AR lower' in Cali would always be there. The keyword there IS "hope"! At least I'd like to think that's there's no way they can put every manufacture of AR lowers on a list of "evil weapons".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockhopper View Post
    if i were to just go buy any lower today, take your pick, i would purchase MEGA no question. And that would be followed very closely by a Noveske FFL.

    MEGA is absolutely top notch, and has the best finish in the business IMHO. However, thier anodizing will not match other brands. (it is darker) So if beauty matters to you, you would want to run it with a MEGA upper, otherwise your recievers wont be the *exact color.
    Same here.

    I like my Mega and Aero Precision lowers more than my Noveske.

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    The best lower to start with is one that left the factory configured as a assault weapon.

    Stripped lowers are not grandfathered assault weapons, even if they were made before a ban.

    IMHO, anybody building off a stripped lower at this point in time is a fool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    The best lower to start with is one that left the factory configured as a assault weapon.

    Stripped lowers are not grandfathered assault weapons, even if they were made before a ban.

    IMHO, anybody building off a stripped lower at this point in time is a fool.
    Well some of us aren't able to throw 15-20k per unit at a few registered m16's....
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottryan View Post
    The best lower to start with is one that left the factory configured as a assault weapon.

    Stripped lowers are not grandfathered assault weapons, even if they were made before a ban.

    IMHO, anybody building off a stripped lower at this point in time is a fool.
    Define assault weapon why don't you?

    Like any particular weapon, be it NFA or otherwise is "immune" cuz it's "grandfathered"...
    Last edited by RHINOWSO; 08-19-13 at 22:38.

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    IMHO, anybody building off a stripped lower at this point in time is a fool.
    Ok, I'll be the first fool to call BS on this advice. Hopefully you meant something you didn't actually type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swstock View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rockhopper View Post
    if i were to just go buy any lower today, take your pick, i would purchase MEGA no question. And that would be followed very closely by a Noveske FFL.

    MEGA is absolutely top notch, and has the best finish in the business IMHO. However, thier anodizing will not match other brands. (it is darker) So if beauty matters to you, you would want to run it with a MEGA upper, otherwise your recievers wont be the *exact color.
    Same here.

    I like my Mega and Aero Precision lowers more than my Noveske.
    I agree that Mega lowers have the cleanest machining and best finish (that I have seen).

    But my concern with Mega is that I have seen 2 different Mega lowers where Mil Spec magazines will not fit properly in them. The mag wells were way too tight.

    No one seems to complain about this. But when Mega was contacted, they were familiar with the issue and swapped out the lowers. If I remember correctly, you can see how the newer lowers were machined slightly differently inside the mag well.

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