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Thread: I can move to safe with the hammer uncocked. Why? - Resolved

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    OP, that trigger doesn't look right in your pictures. The rearmost part that extends under the safety appears to be half missing. Pull the trigger assembly and post some pictures. My bet is that you got a bad trigger from the factory.
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    I think I just saw it. The left side of the trigger tail appears to be completely missing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quiet-Matt View Post
    OP, that trigger doesn't look right in your pictures. The rearmost part that extends under the safety appears to be half missing. Pull the trigger assembly and post some pictures. My bet is that you got a bad trigger from the factory.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    I think I detected something. He has KNS pins on there which indicates that it isn't stock. If this was a .169 lower and someone installed .155 inch pins, would there not be enough room to allow the selector to move over the tail area of the trigger? Just thinking aloud since I can't see the gun.
    Absolutely... Good catch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Quiet-Matt View Post
    OP, that trigger doesn't look right in your pictures. The rearmost part that extends under the safety appears to be half missing. Pull the trigger assembly and post some pictures. My bet is that you got a bad trigger from the factory.
    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    I think I just saw it. The left side of the trigger tail appears to be completely missing.
    Normal, it's a large pin Colt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MK18Pilot View Post
    Absolutely... Good catch.





    Normal, it's a large pin Colt.

    I tried the kns pins on a whim, thinking the stock pins may be bad. I just didn't change them back when I took the pics. Yes, it is a large pin colt and I am using .170 pins.

    I am meeting with a smith on Monday... Too weird for me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluto View Post
    I tried the kns pins on a whim, thinking the stock pins may be bad. I just didn't change them back when I took the pics. Yes, it is a large pin colt and I am using .170 pins.

    I am meeting with a smith on Monday... Too weird for me...
    No need for a gunsmiff...

    The fix here is simple, get rid of the KNS crap and put the OEM safety selector and trigger parts back in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MK18Pilot View Post

    Normal, it's a large pin Colt.
    I never knew that. Not to derail the thread, but was the chopped tail done as one more step to neuter the AR 15 during that time?
    Last edited by Quiet-Matt; 08-16-13 at 15:20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quiet-Matt View Post
    I never knew that. Not to derail the thread, but was the chopped tail done as one more step to neuter the AR 15 during that time?
    Yes... All of the 0.170 triggers were manufactured like that. They were originally designed to be used in conjunction with the infamous Colt sear block which prevented a full auto trigger from being used. Even after sear blocks were discontinued, Colt continued to used the trigger because there was no need to change it to work with a lower receiver that didn't have a sear block.

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    Shows what I know. I haven't messed with a .169 FCG in so long I completely lost sight of the neutered trigger.



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    I think Sweeney talks about all the Colt FCG differences in his book.

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    Thank you all for your help! It seems it was a very simple issue that was very easy to miss...

    Apparently there was a tiny burr in the channel housing the safety retaining pin spring that was rubbing up against the spring. A small file and five minutes and everything works just fine now. With and without the kns pins!

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