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    Quote Originally Posted by jmk View Post
    agree on using the search, but i'm willing to spend a few keystrokes...

    the pmag is uber-popular for a reason:
    --great mag for low price.
    --specifically & successfully designed to mitigate the most commonly encountered real-world failures.
    --(it is the Glock of magazines)

    usgi/aluminium:
    --the originals.
    --many folks swear by them despite the development of improved designs.
    --have come a long way, esp w/modern followers
    --remain well priced.

    stainless:
    --supposedly address some of the durability issues of Al around crush, crack, and deform. i'm not doubting, they just don't seem to be common enough to have confidence (and that may be the real truth to how worthwhile they are).
    This is what I was initially looking for. Thanks!


    [/QUOTE=Agnostic;1723637]Right now I am focusing my magazine purchases on USGI 20 and 30 rounders.


    I really, really like the USGI 20 round mags and use them as my HD magazines, loaded with 55gr TSX.[/QUOTE]

    I need to look into how much more reliable 20 round ones are compared to 30 rounders. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post
    At one time you were a FNG at something, how'd you like it when someone went all elitist on you when you asked a question?

    BTW for the OP - I prefer USGI mags, primarily because, as someone already posted, they fit everything.

    IIRC, "FNG" comes from the Marines.

    USGI fitting everything is good to know. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadowspirit View Post
    IIRC, "FNG" comes from the Marines.

    USGI fitting everything is good to know. Thanks.
    Well, I may have heard it there, I were/are one - a Marine that is, in fact a Marine Sergeant a long long time ago.

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    The intent is to use the search feature first, before starting a thread that has a high probability of being discussed before. We value self research over hearsay or bad advice from who ever they got it from. First hand knowledge is best for everyone's benefit. If someone has something new to offer, great, but check and see if that new nugget of info they recently found, doesn't already have a thread about that very same subject. We used to get a Lube, or a 'Hey I just got a new (Insert commercial grade gun), what do ya'll think?' or a steel case ammo thread on a weekly or several times a month basis from new members. It's all been done to death. For the most part, I've only seen senior members direct new members to use the orange search button because, wait for it...the subject has been discussed before, to death, and not to convey an elitist attitude. The normal chain events goes something like this: Hey guys what do you think about XYZ carbine, the weapon gets slammed, they defend it to death, members hammer new guy, moderators hands out infractions, counsels or bans new guy, new guy's feelings get hurt, and is never heard from again. He then runs back to whatever forum he came from, reports M4C shot down their advice as to why a DPMS, Stag, Oly, etc... is superior to military grade guns, and we were being mean to him. Then they are consoled and sung high praise for purchasing said substandard weapon, and that we are a bunch of low quality carbine hating A-holes, then that thread morphs into a M4C bashing thread. So yeah, we're kinda tired of it.

    Quote Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post
    So at some point isn't there anything new that maybe members have found that isn't in an archived thread?

    If there isn't, then whats the point of allowing any posting - everything's been said so all anyone needs is the orange search button.

    At one time you were a FNG at something, how'd you like it when someone went all elitist on you when you asked a question?

    BTW for the OP - I prefer USGI mags, primarily because, as someone already posted, they fit everything. For training I use Tango Downs - I bought a boat load of them when Brownell's was essentially giving them away. I don't get too upset if I leave one laying someplace.

    So my advice - get some current USGI's for duty/HD and then check websites occasionally to see when mags go on special (probably be a while) and then buy all you want. If you get them cheap enough and they don't work in training/recreational shooting toss them - if you go to a class take your good mags.
    For God and the soldier we adore, In time of danger, not before! The danger passed, and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier slighted." - Rudyard Kipling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iraqgunz View Post
    Why would you load magazines and then leave them unattended in trunks of vehicles subjected to the changing of weather and elements? Police agencies are now learning this lesson and often time the smart ones are pulling the ammo out.
    This is a valid issue and is why I would make officers use their issued ammunition for qualifications BEFORE I would issue new ammunition.
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    IMNSHO probably the best mags available are the NHMTG 20 rd mags (Colt). These are the mags ARs were designed to use. They are made from one piece of folded aluminum alloy with a steel insert to guide the bullet nose.

    The AR was never intended to be a 30rd rifle so every mag that tries to accomplish that is a compromise (curved to straight feed path).

    I only use 20rd mags in my rifles. I like 20rd NHMTG (Colt), Pmag M3 20 rd mags (same spring as a 30rd mag - almost like an AK mag) and Lancer 20RD AWM mags in that order.
    Last edited by DBR; 09-02-13 at 22:50.

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    magazine for durability

    Quote Originally Posted by shadowspirit View Post
    Part of my motivation in asking was that we may not be able to replace what we have now in the future.
    IMO, the cure is to purchase enough good quality mags to cover failures due to wear.

    -john

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    Mags for original AR; Master Molder mags

    Quote Originally Posted by DBR View Post
    The AR was never intended to be a 30rd rifle so every mag that tries to accomplish that is a compromise (curved to straight feed path).

    I only use 20rd mags in my rifles.

    I know the 20rd ones were the first to be used, but didn't know they didn't consider 30 and 40 round ones when they invented the platform. Maybe it has something to do with discouraging full-auto fire.

    A relative who was in 'nam mentioned they typically put 17 or 18 rounds in a 20rd mag.

    I bought a few Master Molder 20rd ones for cheap a while back. They definitely don't have an anti-tilt follower. I only put 5 rounds in at a time so far. No problems.

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    The follower has to tilt in a straight body 20rd mag to accommodate the taper of the cartridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krull View Post
    I know this may not be a popular opinion but I rather like the Tapco mags,I haven't beat the hell out of mine yet but from what I see they seem to be a fair quality item probably not Pmag level but decent enough for regular use.

    I'm going to get some lancers and just store them but get a box of the Tapcos for daily use.

    I think polymer mags are the next step up from aluminum,as I've said before poly flexes or just cracks,aluminum being a metal can bend and make life complicated.

    BTW I'm no parts snob so I only make a point to avoid real junk and in mags that name is ProMag never seen one that doesn't look like
    FWIW, I use a few Tapco's as range mags. They were like $8/ea and in stock at the time vs some other places.

    Sure, they're bulky and made by Tapco. But they've also been relatively reliable, in their limited role. And, being range mags, they probably have the most actual use holding and dispensing bullets.

    I doubt they fit in any magazine pouches (base is really wide), or stand up to a MRAP running over it, and cool guys with beards don't use them ... but they allow me to keep my Lancers and USGI's NIW until I need them.

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