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    1.457" 10 round group at 200 yards with my ARP 6.8 Scout barrel and handloads. They are the real deal.

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    maybe its a reverse guarantee, most barrel makers will make a subMOA or MOA promises wil match ammo(pending you know what you're doing behind the gun, i sure don't).

    maybe ARP knows that alot of ppl will build a tacktikooool gun and then fail when trying to shoot groups with bulk wolf at 100. if you know what you're doing with the right ammo, then results will be better than advertised and that =customers

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukduk View Post
    maybe its a reverse guarantee, most barrel makers will make a subMOA or MOA promises wil match ammo(pending you know what you're doing behind the gun, i sure don't).

    maybe ARP knows that alot of ppl will build a tacktikooool gun and then fail when trying to shoot groups with bulk wolf at 100. if you know what you're doing with the right ammo, then results will be better than advertised and that =customers
    A lot of it comes down to what different people call match grade barrels. I started out making full blown custom rifles from lapped true match grade barrels like Krieger, Hart, Pac Nor and others that could have been used in benchrest matches.
    There are some big names out there that sell what they call "match grade" barrels but they are just plain old production grade stainless. Those companies know with their big name and people thinking all stainless barrels are match grade they can sell those plain stainless barrels for more money and the shooter will never know the difference, after all they're shooting a XXX brand and all their friends are impressed.
    Others think that any barrel that will shoot a few groups under 1" it is perfectly fine to call them match grade. If you go to arfcom they will say 3" groups is normal. Normal for what, standing in the middle of a field shooting beer cans with surplus ammo or shooting match grade ammo off a bench?
    I know what a true match grade barrel is. I am not going to call our barrels match grade even if they will shoot 1/2" groups with the right ammo and a good trigger puller. You're right I don't make promises for the reason you stated. Minimizing returns and theft is part of running a business.
    I had 2 cops from Chattanooga return 2 real Pac Nor match grade barrels because they could not get them to shoot. I tested them with factory ammo and shot 3/4"groups with the first 5 shots. After the whole deal was over I found out they had 1 scope mount on the receiver and 1 on the handguard. Hmm, I wonder why they wouldn't shoot for them.
    There are a bunch of big companies out there selling barrels. I couldn't break in to the market selling what everyone else does. I have to try to produce better products and then prove it to continue making sales.
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    I don't doubt the statement below, but could this barrel http://ar15performance.com/inc/sdetail/11562/4307 be special ordered with the standard 1/2-28 muzzle threads ? Would this barrels accuracy really be much different ?

    NOTICE*** THIS BARREL HAS 5/8-24 threads to keep the bore at the muzzle from swelling like most barrels threaded 1/2-28. The tighter bore at the crown gives better accuracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggy View Post
    I don't doubt the statement below, but could this barrel http://ar15performance.com/inc/sdetail/11562/4307 be special ordered with the standard 1/2-28 muzzle threads ? Would this barrels accuracy really be much different ?

    NOTICE*** THIS BARREL HAS 5/8-24 threads to keep the bore at the muzzle from swelling like most barrels threaded 1/2-28. The tighter bore at the crown gives better accuracy.
    No, they all come threaded the same and have already been stress relieved and Melonite treated. Any machine work done after stress relief will effect the accuracy, especially at the muzzle.
    Shooting 69 or 77gr SMKs the difference would not be much but shooting shorter bodied bullets like 55gr boat tails would be more noticeable. Some bullets aren't quite .224", they will not be as accurate as full .224 dia bullets in any barrel. Bullets that are small diameter and have short .224 diameter areas will in general not be as accurate.
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