Special Forces Worry About M110 Durability

[rljatl]

http://kitup.military.com/2011/08/sp...urability.html

That article is about two years old. Also, it says the accuracy issues have been fixed on the newer versions of the M110.

[MountainRaven]

When M118LR is required to pass lot acceptance under 1 MOA ES, I will be willing to discuss accuracy issues.

Given that the M24 was a 2 MOA (by requirement) gun, and the requirements that the US Army listed for the M110, the gun seems to meet the Army's requirement for "sniper rifle".

I apologize if this comes across as less than jovial, but when a product meets the requirements, beats everything else put up against it, is named one of the best acquisitions in its time period, and has the company's own list of product improvements denied, one should really be asking who failed who here.

Have these proposed improvements been incorporated into commercial production guns, at all?

[Failure2Stop]

Have these proposed improvements been incorporated into commercial production guns, at all?

Yes, but mostly in reference to the other M110 family rifles and carbines.

The forward assist comment is also completely inaccurate.


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[TheBelly]

The forward assist comment is also completely inaccurate.

Are you allowed to enlighten the masses?

[Failure2Stop]

Are you allowed to enlighten the masses?

It has nothing to do with a "Colt patent".
That's like saying that the ejection port door is covered by a standing patent.



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[TheBelly]

I'm currently reading and dissecting the requirements package for the m110...

They asked to shoot 100 rounds in a row? Really?!

This isn't a dig on KAC at all. I agree that they delivered what was asked of them. Like was stated earlier, the contract writer might not have understood the end result of what they were asking.

[sinister]

I know the fella who wrote the requirements doc. He wasn't a sniper nor an infantryman.

He ignored the input of the Infantry Sniper School, SOTIC, and the USAMU.

The 100 rounds comes from a standard basic load (one mag in the rifle, two in 2-mag pouches on either hip or on a chest rig). Shouldn't have been (or be) too hard. The sniper was/is not expected to have to carry an M110 AND an M4.

Lake Shitty's M118LR quality control has been in the toilet for a few years now and is the reason SOCOM specified Mark 316 Mod 0 (basically the same 175-grain 7.62 Match King round but with a clearly-specified precision standard).

Yeah, is the CSASS program still underway?

I think it's dead or stalled due to money.

[TheBelly]

The Army prices the m110 at just under $5k.

The big thing that I see is that there is a LOT of red tape that needs to be navigated through in order to see a change.

That really ties the hands of the companies that are fulfilling the contracts.....

[TheBelly]

I think it's dead or stalled due to money.

I'll call Marlene on Monday.

[T2C]

What weapon system is being used while the kinks with the M110 are being ironed out? I would hate to see a failure in the field get anyone hurt or make them miss an opportunity.