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The predatobr is on my list, along with a diplomata guy can dream no?
Amazing that companies that have been in the precision game for decades, have yet to be able to make a QD barrel work.
You are going to have POI/POI shift, especialy with the way the larue barrel nut is set up. There is no way you are going to get the same possition, torque, and pressure every time.
Furthermore, you are blindly saying they can make this and will work, when you have no proof whatsoever. Sounds like you drink a little too much of the Larue coolaid.
The only thing "new" about this, the the cam locked rail.
In the end, this offers little to nothing over breaking down an AR. You save what....? 6" inches or so of receiver when you take the barrel off? Cannot think of an application where a precision rifle would need to be able broken down that far. What kind of range and terminal ballistics do you expect out of a .308 frame gun? Try running .260/6.5CM/.243 out of a short barrel and let me know how that works for you.
If it NEEDs to be short, than a bullpup is the only way to go without sacrificing barrel length that is needed for most of those rounds to be effective.
Last edited by TurretGunner; 09-03-13 at 19:47.
So does anyone have hands on experience with this system or is it all speculation at this point? It may have POI shift, it may not. I'd love to see some facts. Please, I am interested.
Power is in tearing human minds to pieces and putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing. George Orwell, 1984
If larue came out and said they have this new rail that defies gravity and add's zero weight to your rifle......there would be people here who eat it up.
THINK.....No one had been able to make a QD, RTZ optic mount. Some are better than others, but you are still going to have shift. What makes you think that they can remove the barrel using a normal style barrel nut (when any person who has worked on rifles can tell you, POI changes when you remove/re-install a barrel)?
Larue is losing out on the mount/rail game. They have an archaic and dated design. Their rails are old tech and heavy/expensive. Their mounts are inferior to their competition. The ONLY thing they have going for them is their guns. You would think the dillo dust is made of pixie dust the way some people rock their jock.
Last edited by TurretGunner; 09-03-13 at 20:14.
The first confirmed unit was shipped out to someone last week, so I would expect to see facts concerning this be verified/challenged over the next few months - info on that unit is online.
There have been units out in the field for over a year now, but little information has been leaked - basically the only info that I've seen online on those units was pictures of the tool box and the rifle.
I will test this as soon as I receive mine as well as others.
RFP's get sent out all the time for silly shit. I worked for years in government and DoD procurement. It means little other than SOCOM THINKS they want this and THINKS it may be possible. THINKING and REALITY are rarely one in the same.
Still waiting for the RTZ mount system you are talking about. I have yet to see it.
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