CDC: More People Die Of Drug Overdose Each Year Than From Guns!

[Honu]

the demand comes from people being stupid !

its the adds on TV that say ask your doctor about --------

well I guess if you have to ask your doc about meds he is not a very good doc ! he should know if you have a problem and prescribe it if needed not cause you asked

its the massive kick backs that docs get for prescribing things from the drug reps ! its the hey give out X amount of scrips and we will send you to Hawaii !
so docs do that

its the easy way out I dont want to deal with a kid being a kid so lets drug him down to behavior !


bottom line !
its so many things that have gone wrong and its the typical don't take responsibility blame something or someone else culture that has happened ! or guess I am told to do this so it must be OK dont question authority just shut up and do what they say !

i have to question this somewhat...

you cite an example of how your mother denied medication and this was a (personal) success.

then you claim that some abstract power wants to subjugate people with a multipronged attack on said people to perpetuate whatever is already going on.

is the abstract power not just the everyday, regular people who are too lazy to make good long term decisions like disciplining children, educating children, teaching good decision making, teaching good health practices, etc...

isn't the lack of attention to producing good people the very thing that enables this drug pumping culture?

what do people say about the war on drugs? the problem is the demand? if the demand went away there would be no drugs? is this not the same for big pharma et al?

i suppose the root of my questioning is, where does the demand come from? oh yeah, people.

[Moose-Knuckle]

you cite an example of how your mother denied medication and this was a (personal) success.

My mother did not deny me medication, she simply refused to poison her child.

then you claim that some abstract power wants to subjugate people with a multipronged attack on said people to perpetuate whatever is already going on.

You do realize that the likes of George Soros are personally funding the legalization of Marijuana and that Big Pharma is a multi-BILLION dollar industry. They're not about "healing the sick".

[Texas42]

I may be a resident, but it sure didn't take long before I was comfortable Rx morphine, hydrocodone, hydromorphone, Morphine sulfate, ect. Nurse want more narcotics, patients want more narcotics, and its easier to shuffle patients through if you do what they want. I refuse to even ask the 1-10 pain scale, it is such a joke.

I will say that most of the foreign medical grads prescribe a WHOLE lot less narcotics in their country (but they turn around quickly). My ID attending told me he wrote orders for 4mg of morphine his entire residency.

I tend to think ER docs here are some of the worse offenders here. At least they prescribe Dilaudid and meperidine pretty easily. Heck, they practice a lot more "primary care" than we do.

[SteveS]

Basically big pharma gives big bucks to the lawmakers . Gun manufactures do not.

[Sensei]

I may be a resident, but it sure didn't take long before I was comfortable Rx morphine, hydrocodone, hydromorphone, Morphine sulfate, ect. Nurse want more narcotics, patients want more narcotics, and its easier to shuffle patients through if you do what they want. I refuse to even ask the 1-10 pain scale, it is such a joke.

Very soon you will need to ask yourself if you are part of the problem or part of the solution. I appreciate that writing a script is a great way to make the problem at hand go away. However, doing this just perpetuates the larger problem that someone else must fix. All doctors face this dilemma - even pediatricians who confront the angry hoards of mothers wanting an antibiotic for little Johnny's URI (in the 80's we gave amoxicillin, in the 90's it was Augmentin, now it is Omnicef...geezuuschrist).

Well, now we all know that lots of people are being hurt, and some of them even killed, with our Burger King have-it-your-way attitude. Perhaps it is time to start saying "no" to the significant majority of people who will get better without our "help." After all, there is a reason why primary care physicians with the highest patient satisfaction scores also have the worst outcomes including the higher mortalities. Changing one's practice to meet patient's expectations means that a number of people are going to receive treatments they don't need; that means all the risk of adverse affects with no chance of benefit.

[kaiservontexas]

Actually, you should thank your doctors for this epidemic - especially primary care providers who make a killing (pun intended) treating chronic pain, anxiety, and "bipolar" with short-acting narcotics and benzodiazepines. I say they are making a killing because deaths due to prescription drugs, namely narcotics and benzodiazepines such as Oxycodone and Xanax, have this year eclipsed the COMBINED deaths due to street drug overdoses and motorvehicle collisions. 30 years ago a family doctor could go days without prescribing a narcotic; nowadays they would starve without a DEA license. It gives a new meaning to the Motley Crüe song "Dr. Feel Good."

You see, this mess got started by one asshole anesthesiologist named Russell Portenoy used blatantly faulty studies to push the notion that narcotics could be used to treat non-cancer pain with no chance of addiction. He was also the dickhead who argued for a pain score (you know, the 1-10 score every nurse asks you after sticking a thermometer up your ass) being included as a 5th vital sign. Well, it should come as no surprise to anyone that this quack had financial ties to the pharmaceutical industry including the origional manufacturer of Oxycodone. It gets better, the medical community followed this Pied Piper because it created a whole new medical industry of pain management to bill 3rd party payers.

Even emergency physicians are in on the scheme as most freely overprescribe Vicoden, Percocet, and others for minor sprains and vague pain complaints in order to keep their patient satisfaction scores high (and hence their monthly bonuses). That's right, pscription narcotics are now the most frequently prescribed medications in emergency departments with 60% of discharged adults leaving with a narcotic as a firstline analgesic. It has gotten so bad that denying a frequent flyer their drugs in most ED's draws an immediate complaint to hospital administration since drug seekers understand that enough complaints will threaten any doctors job. That is because hospitals compete for emergency department visits even among Medicaid patients in certain states.

Here are some links if you want to learn about how we got to where we are today. It is a great lesson on how America's doctors have transformed a disease into disability, and sometimes a life-threatening condition.

http://hcrenewal.blogspot.com/2012/1...aceutical.html

http://oxywatchdog.com/wp-content/up..._Pain_as.9.pdf

I want to meet this big phrama you talk about because I have lumps on my spine, confirmed by MRI, and just to get a painkiller is to jump through hoops like mad. So nobody is dolling out chemicals like street dealers with MDs and Ph.Ds. so drop it.

[Honu]

maybe not yours but they are !
and its not like people dont know our country and others has a epidemic of being hooked on scrips !

and hope you get whatever the lump is taken care of

I want to meet this big phrama you talk about because I have lumps on my spine, confirmed by MRI, and just to get a painkiller is to jump through hoops like mad. So nobody is dolling out chemicals like street dealers with MDs and Ph.Ds. so drop it.

[Sensei]

I want to meet this big phrama you talk about because I have lumps on my spine, confirmed by MRI, and just to get a painkiller is to jump through hoops like mad. So nobody is dolling out chemicals like street dealers with MDs and Ph.Ds. so drop it.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/...ing/50896242/1

http://lab.express-scripts.com/presc...use-and-abuse/

Good luck with those lumps.

[.46caliber]

I want to meet this big phrama you talk about because I have lumps on my spine, confirmed by MRI, and just to get a painkiller is to jump through hoops like mad. So nobody is dolling out chemicals like street dealers with MDs and Ph.Ds. so drop it.

Find a different doctor and you'll get your pills. When an oral surgeon writes a script for 30 Oxy's for a damn tooth extraction, we have a problem.


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[kwelz]

I too would like to see these free flowing prescriptions. One of the few times I really needed pain meds it was almost impossible to get any.