So I watched some "Gun Shows" on TV......

[C4IGrant]

I don't get to watch much TV with two young boys and a wife (+ 10,000 hobbies), but for whatever reason I watched several shows on the sportsman channel. All of them were about defensive based guns, drills, etc (meaning no hunting shows).

I guess I have been out of the loop for awhile, but I did not realize how BAD some of these hosts and guest hosts are. They don't know how to properly hold a gun, can't shoot, know nothing about the gun they are talking about and like gun mags, never saw a gun they didn't like.

What concerns me is that people that know LESS THAN the hosts of the show get all their "knowledge" from these people. Then they propagate this crap to friends and family as the "expert."

Then a shining light came on the TV. A beacon of hope in dark world. That's right, TAC TV! If that wasn't good enough, the co-host was Mr. Ken Hackathorn. His knowledge level and shooting ability EMBARRASSES the rest of these TV hosts.


Public SVC announcement: If you know nothing about guns, training or how to shoot (meaning cannot separate good from bad), ignore everything you see. If you do know what is going on, watch these shows for pure fictional entertainment.



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[brickboy240]

I also notice that these guys are using pistols that most of us (...and the real operators) are not using. Ruger SR9s, XDs and even the Taurus 24-7 show up. Also lots of 380s and other tiny pistols.

They extoll the virtues of lasers and other things that the pros do not use.

The only one on these programs that I have seen and thought he knows what he is doing is Rob Pincus. The rest of the hosts are...well...questionable.

Yes, thank God for Tac TV, because we know that we will always get the straight skinny from Larry Vickers and his guests.

I enjoy the American Rifleman series now and then for it's historical segments but most of the other programs (minus Tac TV) I can live without.

-brickboy240

[Ryno12]

Funny you mention this. I rarely watch "live" television anymore, everything gets DVR'd then viewed at my leisure. Anyway, about two weeks ago, I was watching a program about home defense. I don't recall the name of the show but the host was Gerald McRaney. This one particular segment was guest hosted by Rich Wyatt & he was talking about HD options. Rich went on to say how a shotgun is a good option because (you guessed it) quite often, the sound alone of a shotgun being racked may be enough to scare off any intruders. I've since removed the program from my DVR schedule.

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[Doc Safari]

I watched some of those shows until I realized that they're really nothing but 30-minute commercials for new guns & gear.

I won't watch one now unless it's about something I'm thinking of buying anyway.

[C4IGrant]

Funny you mention this. I rarely watch "live" television anymore, everything gets DVR'd then viewed at my leisure. Anyway, about two weeks ago, I was watching a program about home defense. I don't recall the name of the show but the host was Gerald McRaney. This one particular segment was guest hosted by Rich Wyatt & he was talking about HD options. Rich went on to say how a shotgun is a good option because (you guessed it) quite often, the sound alone of a shotgun being racked may be enough to scare off any intruders. I've since removed the program from my DVR schedule.

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Right. Once I hear pure stupidity, I have to hit the "delete button" on them.


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[Army Chief]

Agree with all, though by way of gentle counterpoint, I am nevertheless half-pleased that such shows exist at all, as they at least help give the gun community a more mainstream impression where the general public is concerned. There is also the "it takes all kinds" (fudds, trap/skeet, cowboy action, collectors, etc.) argument, I suppose, but while I would much prefer the genre to gravitate toward knowledgable trainers and authoritative commentary, at least the entertainment industry is acknowledging our market. I can't remember when we've had more options in terms of 2A-related programming that wasn't purely hunting-centric.

If you really think about it, they (entertainment industry) don't do a particularly competent job with any other interest group or fan base, either. Sensationalism, surface-deep journalism and celebrity are pretty much the order of the day for most such productions, and this is likely just an accurate reflection of our culture. As long as we have at least one or two beacons of light getting some air time, I am inclined to count my blessings.

AC

[Ryno12]

Options are good. There's some I watch purely for entertainment purposes, others are informational. There's about 4 different ones I watch regularly for various reasons. If I didn't have options, the ladies in my life would completely take over the DVR with Mickey Mouse & about 5 different flavors of "Real" housewives. It's a constant battle and I just can't let that happen.

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They extoll the virtues of lasers and other things that the pros do not use.

Funny you should say that, considering Hackathorn's endorsement of lasers on handguns.

[WillBrink]

Agree with all, though by way of gentle counterpoint, I am nevertheless half-pleased that such shows exist at all, as they at least help give the gun community a more mainstream impression where the general public is concerned. There is also the "it takes all kinds" (fudds, trap/skeet, cowboy action, collectors, etc.) argument, I suppose, but while I would much prefer the genre to gravitate toward knowledgable trainers and authoritative commentary, at least the entertainment industry is acknowledging our market. I can't remember when we've had more options in terms of 2A-related programming that wasn't purely hunting-centric.

If you really think about it, they (entertainment industry) don't do a particularly competent job with any other interest group or fan base, either. Sensationalism, surface-deep journalism and celebrity are pretty much the order of the day for most such productions, and this is likely just an accurate reflection of our culture. As long as we have at least one or two beacons of light getting some air time, I am inclined to count my blessings.

AC

I'm on the same page. That an entire night of TV on a channel is dedicated to guns in a positive light is a net + for the overall cause of educating the public about guns. I generally can't stand watching most of them, and the info is very hit or miss (no pun intended) where a show or segment can go from terrible to great quickly, just like the topic does on a gun related forum etc. as the BTDT that types get mixed with the bubba mall ninjas.

I find those shows much better for the community than say something like Sons of Guns or what have you which I find bad on pretty much all levels.

[Pork Chop]

Options are good. There's some I watch purely for entertainment purposes, others are informational. There's about 4 different ones I watch regularly for various reasons. If I didn't have options, the ladies in my life would completely take over the DVR with Mickey Mouse & about 5 different flavors of "Real" housewives. It's a constant battle and I just can't let that happen.

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Yep. The estrogen concentration in my house is absurd. Something MUST be done, so a few gun shows and, of course, football make the dvr schedule.

I still like Top shot just because, but I'll admit, sometimes I don't think the shots look all that terribly hard. And TacTV, but I really can't sit through any of the guns and ammo or other shows and shit like "American Guns" and whatever that abomination is called about red jacket retard arms are just deplorable. I'd rather thee were NO gun programming than to see that crap.

I also watch 3gunnation, just to make my wife's eyes bleed in retribution for "so you think you can dance". Lol