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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnmt6601 View Post
    OP didnt do the shooting

    I did it.

    and I used the standard Colt carry handle. though I did make most of the needed elevation adjustment with the front sight with 3-4 full turns, then fined tuned the rest on the rear elevation. I did not use any optics for the 1000 yard shots with the 14.5 inch SOCOM. The gun did have the KAC RAS on it though.


    I used more then M855 and M193, I shot with MK 262. The article has all the details and pictures of the groups shot

    I also shot at 800 yards using a T-1 and a 16 inch gov profile barrel on a Colt 6940




    thanks for the compliments fellows.





    I also did the same test with a stock Colt M16A2 upper on a stock Colt lower using M855, iron sights and nothing but a Sling while laying prone for support if you care to read about it. I also played around with MK 262 in the A2 rifle as well
    http://looserounds.com/2013/06/10/ar...000-yard-hits/
    Damn Shawn didn't even know you had a membership here! Some just skipped over where I started with mentioning you did the shooting.
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    Damn! I was pretty impressed with my 6920 when I hit a propane tank 5 times from 600 with irons. I could barely see it and was fairly certain I couldn't go any further than that. That's fantastic shooting

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    Quote Originally Posted by T2C View Post
    3-4 rotations of the front sight should have raised the elevation 19-25 MOA on a carbine. What hold did you use? 6 O'Clock? POA = POI?

    That was impressive marksmanship.





    yeah something like that. The way I set up the zero was, I had it set to where I would hold the top of the front post under the actual target quite a bit. This allowed me to not cover the target and spot the missed shots anywhere around the target from dirt kicking up and to give me more to play with. Off the top of my head I have forgotten exactly. but If memory serves, I was holding about 2 target lengths below the target so as to not cover the target "zone" I did not actually expect to get on target with the M855 so thats why I set it up to see around the target. I was about 80 percent confident I could do it with the MK 262 in the M4 but still needed to be able to see. The A2 rifle is not hard at all to get on target at 1000 yards.
    But the results look better for the carbine due to the weather being better that day.

    I wrote a long article on looserounds.com were I answered most of the details on how I did it with the rifle. you can search the google search bar on the right hand of the website to find it. I answer almost all of the questions common from people who wanted to know how I went about it



    I have spent a lot of years shooting service rifle and such at longer ranges. mainly 800-1000 and further, I also short the Colt 901 to 1,200 yards in my T&E of the 901 before it became available to buy. You can read about that on the website., its under Colt 901 Part II


    Some of you should not sell your self short. I wear glasses and have no exceptional vision its just a question of decades of practice. You cant shoot long range without actually shooting at long range. No short cuts in my experience.


    If I would give any advice on long range success with the A2 and m4 and doing this kind thing, its this


    HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE SERVICE WEAPON AS IT IS. It can do things the vast majority of its users have no idea it can do and will never bother to try because they have been told it won't do it. Once you realize just how good rack grade (properly made) M4s and AR15s are, your confidence will grow and what you can do with it grows. You won't have that damn mental block so many people have that holds them back from what can be done with the 5.56 and the AR15/ M4. Its any serious rifleman's duty I guess.


    I do use Colt only and I make no claims about any other brand of non-rack grade milspec rifles/carbines. Personally I am only interested in what FIGHTING guns can do these days. I know what some rifle babied up for Perry will do. Its not important to what we are doing here though in my opinion. So, I try to instill confidence in the service guns and bring back confidence for the users who have been told for years how useless and crappy the M4 is. That is all BS. The M4 can accomplish some amazing things and doesn't to be anything other than a properly made battle hardened combat rifle. and to me. that means colt. I know what a colt will do. so that's what I stick to without exception.

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    Damn fine shooting and as you say a reassuring and surprising result from a "fighting" rifle.

    Furthest I've gone was 550, and that was with an optic.

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    How did you even see the target??
    "I never learned from a man who agreed with me." Robert A. Heinlein

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    Quote Originally Posted by shawnmt6601 View Post
    yeah something like that. The way I set up the zero was, I had it set to where I would hold the top of the front post under the actual target quite a bit. This allowed me to not cover the target and spot the missed shots anywhere around the target from dirt kicking up and to give me more to play with. Off the top of my head I have forgotten exactly. but If memory serves, I was holding about 2 target lengths below the target so as to not cover the target "zone" I did not actually expect to get on target with the M855 so thats why I set it up to see around the target. I was about 80 percent confident I could do it with the MK 262 in the M4 but still needed to be able to see. The A2 rifle is not hard at all to get on target at 1000 yards.
    Thank you for the information. I agree with you. You do not know what your equipment will do unless you are willing to push the envelope.
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    Who would have thought the 14.5" barrel is that capable...
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    Quote Originally Posted by wild_wild_wes View Post
    Who would have thought the 14.5" barrel is that capable...
    I think that's exactly the point -- that people seriously underestimate the mechanical capability of lots of different firearms.

    I don't have the experience to do it, but there was a guy at the range I previously belonged to that consistently shacked bowling pins at 200 yards standing offhand with a 4.25" Colt Commander. I have tried to replicate that, but I just don't have the number of rounds down the pipe to be able to do it.

    For some reason, in the last 20-30 years we seem to have lost the idea of real marksmanship in the general firearms community. Outside of the fact that most recreational shooters I have seen over the last decade or two aren't interested in shooting at much more than 100 yards, people also don't seem to be interested in acknowledging that the person pulling the trigger is significantly more of a limitation than the firearm is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HackerF15E View Post
    I think that's exactly the point -- that people seriously underestimate the mechanical capability of lots of different firearms.

    I don't have the experience to do it, but there was a guy at the range I previously belonged to that consistently shacked bowling pins at 200 yards standing offhand with a 4.25" Colt Commander. I have tried to replicate that, but I just don't have the number of rounds down the pipe to be able to do it.

    For some reason, in the last 20-30 years we seem to have lost the idea of real marksmanship in the general firearms community. Outside of the fact that most recreational shooters I have seen over the last decade or two aren't interested in shooting at much more than 100 yards, people also don't seem to be interested in acknowledging that the person pulling the trigger is significantly more of a limitation than the firearm is.
    Good post, I think you're right on the money.

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    Shawn, thanks for doing this test and writing such a great report. In my short 2 years into this hobby I'm having fun learning all I can. I only have 1 AR15 and its a Colt 6920, stock except for stock and hand guard.

    Everyone keeps telling how bad the m855 round is but you proved that completely wrong. I have a lot of 193 and 855 and never really know what round to buy. So I guess the 855 round is pretty darn good huh?

    Thanks again!

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