iOS 7 for iPhone on the 18th

[VIP3R 237]

I'm going to pass. Apple already collects all info from their products as it is.

[jpmuscle]

Amongst the documents Snowden leaked, was a lot about where their capabilities lie. Most of their actual success stems from things like the Sigint enabling project, which essentially coerce companies to enable their exploitation. They, like the rest of the world simply don't have computers strong enough to brute force their way through 128 bit, never mind 2048 bit RSA keys. It would take them thousands if not millions of years.

Unless they've figured out some math that the rest of us haven't that is. Lots of brain power in private companies around the NSA making billions of dollars so I don't exactly doubt it. Snowden essentially proved that they figured out they don't have to crack anything, if they can get backdoor access to 99% of what's out there anyway.

On the flip side, apparently they can breeze through SSL and VPN.

Once upon a time a read a good book (meta math maybe?) and in it it discussed the possibilities of I think were described as evolving encryption keys wherein the machine attempting to brute force its way through would never know if it was actually successful because the key codes continually change, or something like that. Has anything like that materialized? Any recommended links where one can read up on that kind of stuff? It's always been an attention grabber of mine.

[Gutshot John]

The math involved with brute forcing keys and algorithms assumes a certain level of computing power. Millions of years can be shortened significantly, but that's not what I'm talking about. It's akin to a fixed fortification, given time any fixed fortification will fall, you're just trying to make it as costly as you can so they find an easier target.

It doesn't matter that they might have a backdoor, if you encrypt your traffic/activity you impose a cost on them, the more people that do this, the harder it becomes for the NSA.

Snowden explicitly made that point.

[Gutshot John]

Once upon a time a read a good book (meta math maybe?) and in it it discussed the possibilities of I think were described as evolving encryption keys wherein the machine attempting to brute force its way through would never know if it was actually successful because the key codes continually change, or something like that. Has anything like that materialized? Any recommended links where one can read up on that kind of stuff? It's always been an attention grabber of mine.

Yep, used all the time, especially in the financial services industry, the problem lies in what they call the "salt" and how close to truly "random" it is.

[El Cid]

Didn't see it mentioned here - why can we still not have an edit/find type of feature for Safari?? It sucks when you get to a web page via a search engine and can't locate what it did because the page is so immense.

[jonconsiglio]

Didn't see it mentioned here - why can we still not have an edit/find type of feature for Safari?? It sucks when you get to a web page via a search engine and can't locate what it did because the page is so immense.

You mean using search, then find that on the loaded page? It's been there for a while, at least all of iOS 6. In iOS 6, type the words in the search field, then scroll all the way down and you'll see "find on page".

In iOS 7 it's the same, you just use the single URL/Search bar.

[El Cid]

You mean using search, then find that on the loaded page? It's been there for a while, at least all of iOS 6. In iOS 6, type the words in the search field, then scroll all the way down and you'll see "find on page".

In iOS 7 it's the same, you just use the single URL/Search bar.

Haha! Sweet! Had no idea - thanks!!

[jonconsiglio]

Haha! Sweet! Had no idea - thanks!!

No problem.


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[thopkins22]

It doesn't matter that they might have a backdoor, if you encrypt your traffic/activity you impose a cost on them, the more people that do this, the harder it becomes for the NSA.

For sure.

[Gutshot John]

Another issue not discussed...

Nonrepudiation and biometric scanning...potential issue