Another OC vs LEO

[Alaskapopo]

"We make mistakes too"

Most brilliant defense of a position ever. I believe my point soared over your head, or you simply chose to ignore it. Best of luck to you.

So you never make mistakes?
Pat

[_Stormin_]

So you never make mistakes?
Pat

At work? They're a rare effing sight... Think I might have had a paperwork error a couple of years back that I caught before sending everything out. Like I said, I screw up and there are consequences. I love what I do, and I plan on doing so for a few more years. So I make sure my things are right before anything goes out.

The example I gave wasn't missing a line on a ticket or driving at the wrong speed. That cop would have arrested someone for a legally carried knife because of ignorance of the law. What if the mistake was the other way, and lead to an arrest and misdemeanor weapons charge? It's a job with a hell of a lot of responsibility. If someone's going to sign up for it, they should be prepared for that.

[Alaskapopo]

At work? They're a rare effing sight... Think I might have had a paperwork error a couple of years back that I caught before sending everything out. Like I said, I screw up and there are consequences. I love what I do, and I plan on doing so for a few more years. So I make sure my things are right before anything goes out.

The example I gave wasn't missing a line on a ticket or driving at the wrong speed. That cop would have arrested someone for a legally carried knife because of ignorance of the law. What if the mistake was the other way, and lead to an arrest and misdemeanor weapons charge? It's a job with a hell of a lot of responsibility. If someone's going to sign up for it, they should be prepared for that.

Ok so your next to perfect at work. Congrats. Also I doubt anyone would have been arrested based on the knife law you quoted as we tend to check the statutes before making arrests. Its when people ask you questions in casual conversation that mistakes can happen. The one you mentioned is so very slight as not to be even considered. 1 freaking inch come one really? Yes its a job with a lot of responsibility and relatively low pay. That said your not always going to get perfect answers from street level cops on every law on the books.
Pat

[wake.joe]

Are you all aware that if this kind of approach towards gun rights continues that someone will eventually get shot by a responding officer?

And who's fault would that be?

[Honu]

so is LEO trampling on peoples rights !

Open carry is stupid enough said.
Pat

[Iraqgunz]

I don't agree with open carry (for the most part) but this officer was out of line. There was no crime committed so I don't understand why there was a compelling need to produce I.D, especially from those that weren't even involved in the initial contact.

The best option is to file a formal complaint and consult a lawyer since they were being detained with no explanation as to why.

When the officer answers "I don't know" when the guy asked if he was suspected of something is outright plain stupid.

I think U.S. v. DeBerry and Brown v. Texas would be two good starting points.

[jklaughrey]

I don't agree with open carry (for the most part) but this officer was out of line. There was no crime committed so I don't understand why there was a compelling need to produce I.D, especially from those that weren't even involved in the initial contact.

The best option is to file a formal complaint and consult a lawyer since they were being detained with no explanation as to why.

When the officer answers "I don't know" when the guy asked if he was suspected of something is outright plain stupid.

I think U.S. v. DeBerry and Brown v. Texas would be two good starting points.

Had a PD officer act the same here on WA at store parking lot. I was actually off duty but was shopping. Saw the altercation, identified myself and spoke with the officer. He called me an idiot for supporting his suspect, yeah guy was OC, a. 44mag in a chest holster getting supplies for hunting camp complete with his dogs. I said to him he was a disrespectful and ignorant twit. Guess who is no longer a PD cop, got to love where I live. If you don't like guns stay out of N. ID and E. WA.

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[Iraqgunz]

The only times I OC'd when I was in WA was when I was camping or on some occasions when I was doing bailbonds. Other than that I kept it covered. Which was pretty easy to do since it is cool most of the time. I never really ran into any crazy cops as far as firearms were concerned.

Had a PD officer act the same here on WA at store parking lot. I was actually off duty but was shopping. Saw the altercation, identified myself and spoke with the officer. He called me an idiot for supporting his suspect, yeah guy was OC, a. 44mag in a chest holster getting supplies for hunting camp complete with his dogs. I said to him he was a disrespectful and ignorant twit. Guess who is no longer a PD cop, he is Got to love where I live. If you don't like guns stay out of N. IS and E. WA.

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[jklaughrey]

The only times I OC'd when I was in WA was when I was camping or on some occasions when I was doing bailbonds. Other than that I kept it covered. Which was pretty easy to do since it is cool most of the time. I never really ran into any crazy cops as far as firearms were concerned.

Yeah, I think the best option is to always keep things covert. No sense displaying your show cards to the other players. But on the same token I can't stand an officer that violates the rights of a fellow citizen either through ignorance or disdain. He got what he deserved for being a heavy handed thug starting an issue where there was none.

Personally, a. 44 for CCing is a stretch, but OC, not a problem if I was a hunter. ;-)

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[polymorpheous]

The left regularly use this tactic to make whatever agenda they're pushing the norm.
Look at the homosexual agenda.
It is in your face, and being more and more accepted by mainstream population.