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    Quote Originally Posted by sadmin View Post
    Out of 41 shots fired into the suspect's truck, he was hit 3 times. Oddly, his passenger wasnt hit at all; not to mention a dog dragged him out of the car by his throat. The police officer has been terminated since then as he was the only shooter out of 5 officers on the scene. The PO that shot the suspect is also the person who rammed his truck when they entered the cul de sac. Sociopaths dont often blossom until later in life.
    .... :O im speechless.

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    Old news. He was not shot 41 times. He was hit more like 3 times. Tutor did ram the vehicle like twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kwelz View Post
    While I am 100% positive that there is more to this story, I can't see any way 41 rounds is justified at an unarmed man.

    To say the least...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeoNeanderthal View Post
    There were 4 other officers that let him unload 2 1/2 mags on a guy???
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    More to this story...

    Police officer lies on initial report to cover his crimes, then other LE confiscates witness's camera and deletes pictures...what a surprise.

    Texas Police Kill Unarmed Man Before Confiscating Witness Camera and Deleting Images
    Posted on September 13, 2012 by Admin
    Pixiq Police in Texas shot an unarmed man 41 times, then turned around and confiscated another man’s camera after he started taking photos and shooting video of the bloody aftermath.

    Dallas-area cops then deleted the man’s footage before returning the camera four days later.

    Now police from two agencies are vowing to do a “complete investigation,” which, of course, means we will hear nothing more about the August 31 incident for at least several months.

    But so far, the partial investigation has determined that Garland police officer Patrick Tuter lied in his initial report when he claimed that suspect Michael Vincent Allen backed his truck into the patrol car, causing the cop to fear for his life and leaving him no choice but to fire 41 times, meaning he reloaded at least once.

    Miraculously, a 20-year-old unarmed woman who was sitting in the cab of the pick-up truck emerged unscathed.

    According to the Dallas Morning News, Mesquite police officers confiscated the witness’s camera:

    “From the time they yelled, ‘Get out, get out,’ they didn’t give him three seconds to get out,” Mitchell Wallace said, adding that he counted about 20 bullet holes in Allen’s truck.

    Wallace and his wife were asleep when the gunshots began, but they quickly made it to the porch to see Allen’s passenger being pulled from the truck and a police dog jumping into the cab. The German shepherd bit Allen in the neck and jaw area and dragged him out of the truck and onto the pavement, Wallace said.

    Police officers pulled the dog off, flipped Allen on his stomach and handcuffed him before checking his pulse. Autopsy results are pending on the cause of Allen’s death.

    Wallace took cellphone pictures and video after the shooting stopped, but he said Mesquite police confiscated the phone and deleted the video and pictures. The phone was returned four days later, he said.

    Mesquite police are conducting the criminal investigation, which hopefully includes whether or not Tuter acted lawfully, and Garland police are conducting the internal investigation.

    Photography is Not a Crime reader Avi Adelman, a Dallas resident who runs the local news blog Barking Dogs is demanding Mesquite conduct an internal investigation into their officers for confiscating Wallace’s camera and deleting his images, which is a violation of federal law.

    The law states that police need a court order to confiscate a camera unless it was used in a commission of a crime. The only exception is if there are exigent circumstances, such as a strong belief that the witness will destroy the photos, therefore destroying evidence.

    Under no circumstances do police have the right to delete footage.

    Adelman stated the following in a letter he fired off to Mesquite City Manager Ted Barron:

    Mr. Barron, the actions of the unnamed Mesquite police officer(s) was a violation of Mr. Mitchell’s First and Fourth Amendment rights. Attached to this fax is a US Department of Justice memo clearly outlining the issues regarding illegal seizures and deletions of video and photos captured by the public of police activities. I am also requesting in advance a copy of the Mesquite Police Departments internal affairs investigation, under the Texas Public Information Act.

    Adelman has also been staying on top of the Memorial Day incident in which a Dallas sheriff deputy arrested a motorcyclist because he wouldn’t hand over his helmet camera footage as evidence against other bikers.

    Adelman contacted the sheriff’s department late last month about that incident and was told it was still under investigation.

    When he made some critical comments regarding that incident on the Dallas Sheriff Facebook page, they were deleted immediately.

    In the recent incident, police say they tried to pull Allen over because he had been involved in a previous chase with another Dallas-area law enforcement agency.

    But then they said he led them on a 30-minute chase with speeds reaching 100 mph.

    He eventually pulled into a cul-de-sac, which is when they said he tried to ram his way to freedom.

    But a dash cam video proved that to be a lie.

    Garland police also said Tuesday that dash-cam video revealed that Officer Patrick Tuter crashed his squad car into a truck driven by the suspect, Michael Vincent Allen, before the shooting started. Initial reports had said Allen had hit Tuter’s car, prompting the officer to open fire.

    It was only two months ago that Houston police also confiscated a camera from a witness in the aftermath of a shooting, an incident in which no update has been made available.

    UPDATE: As of this writing, the Dallas Sheriff’s deputy who arrested the motorcyclist was suspended without pay for nearly two months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vendetta View Post
    Old news. He was not shot 41 times. He was hit more like 3 times. Tutor did ram the vehicle like twice.
    Mitchell Wallace and his family live next door to where the chase ended, and Wallace had no trouble believing the report that up to 41 shots were fired.

    “There was a pause in between the firing that made me believe he was reloading,” Wallace said.

    After Allen pulled into a driveway at the end of a cul-de-sac in an attempt to make a U-turn, his truck was pinned between two police cars with one of the police cars striking Allen’s truck from the front, said Wallace’s 17-year-old son, Cameron.

    “From the time they yelled, ‘Get out, get out,’ they didn’t give him three seconds to get out,” Mitchell Wallace said, adding that he counted about 20 bullet holes in Allen’s truck.

    Wallace and his wife were asleep when the gunshots began, but they quickly made it to the porch to see Allen’s passenger being pulled from the truck and a police dog jumping into the cab. The German shepherd bit Allen in the neck and jaw area and dragged him out of the truck and onto the pavement, Wallace said.

    Police officers pulled the dog off, flipped Allen on his stomach and handcuffed him before checking his pulse. Autopsy results are pending on the cause of Allen’s death.

    Wallace took cellphone pictures and video after the shooting stopped, but he said Mesquite police confiscated the phone and deleted the video and pictures. The phone was returned four days later, he said.


    Shooting took place a year ago according to the above Dallas news link, the officer in question actually did fire 41 shots at the unarmed suspect...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Denali View Post
    Shooting took place a year ago according to the above Dallas news link, the officer in question actually did fire 41 shots at the unarmed suspect...
    I never once said 41 one rounds weren't fired. I said he was not shot 41 times, which is what the original article and post stated.
    "My craving is, and always has been, to be involved in actions conducted to ensure America remains strong, safe, and free of those who have its destruction as their goal."
    - Billy Waugh

    "When you enter a room full of armed men, shoot the first person who moves, hostile or otherwise. He has started to think and is therefore dangerous."
    - Robert "Paddy" Mayne

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    Thats okay guys, just doing his job the best he can.

    Don't think the guy died, so he also learned a valuable lesson to not run from the police.


    Regards.

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