Charlotte Police Officer Arrested in Shooting Death

[Honu]

must be that 2x a day the clock that does not work is correct

cause I agree with this totally

Lots of information is missing. I saw this one on police one. I imagine the car wreck was not a simple accident but rather a DUI. Someone looking for help does not charge a police officer. This makes me believe drugs were probably involved. The fact the taser failed shows the LEO felt he may have been out of options. He tried less lethal force first. I would like to have known the size, age, differences between the officers and the suspect. Again its easy to make assumptions but on its face it sounds like the department is hanging the officer out to dry because of the number of rounds fired and the race politics. As for the number of rounds fired we know that is not unusual as well all know because hand guns suck at stopping power and a good shooter can fire about 4 to 5 rounds a second at close range. I have a wait and see attitude right now. I want to know more information.
Pat

[Gutshot John]

You missed the part where I said that "I'm betting" which means that it is not certain or definitive - in other words it is a guess based on a bunch of experience. Also, the article that you referenced refers to long-term behavior changes - not the immediate effects of a concussion. Again MOST sober people who have immediately sustained TBI are not violent or aggressive - they are confused and disoriented. Drunks who have sustained a concussion are often a different story.

Decreased LOC, no matter what the cause, can certainly result in aggressive behavior, "confused" patients are often aggressive.

Seen it literally dozens of times.

As for TBI...

What happens immediately after TBI?

Immediately following TBI, two types of effects are seen. First, brain tissue reacts to trauma and to tissue damage with a series of biochemical and other physiological responses. Substances that once were safely housed within the cells now flood the brain. These processes further damage and destroy brain cells, in what is called secondary cell death.

The second type of effect is seen in the individual's functioning. For those with more severe injuries, loss of consciousness (LOC) occurs at the time of trauma, lasting from a few minutes or hours to several weeks or even months. Lengthy LOC is referred to as coma. In such serious injuries, the first few days after trauma may also produce negative changes in respiration (breathing) and motor functions.

As an individual regains consciousness (those with the severest injuries may never do so), a variety of neurologically based symptoms may occur: irritability, aggression and other problems. Post-traumatic amnesia (PTA) is also typically experienced when an injured person regains consciousness. PTA refers to the period when the individual feels a sense of confusion and disorientation - Where am I? What happened? - and an inability to remember recent events.

As time passes, these responses typically subside, and the brain and other body systems again approach physiological stability. But, unlike tissues such as bone or muscle, the neurons in the brain do not mend themselves. New nerves do not grow in ways that lead to full recovery. Certain areas of the brain remain damaged, and the functions that were controlled by those areas may emerge as challenges in the individual's life.

Before discussing in greater detail what happens to the person after injury, which depends to great extent on the severity of injury, "severity" needs to be defined (in the next question).

http://www.brainline.org/content/200...y_pageall.html

[Sensei]

Decreased LOC, no matter what the cause, can certainly result in aggressive behavior, "confused" patients are often aggressive.

Seen it literally dozens of times.

As for TBI...



http://www.brainline.org/content/200...y_pageall.html

Thanks John.

[NC_DAVE]

http://www.wsoctv.com/videos/news/91...ooting/vCCg6t/

911 call the reporting party sounds scared.

[NCPatrolAR]

The attitudes need to get put back on the shelf

[NCPatrolAR]

http://www.wsoctv.com/videos/news/91...ooting/vCCg6t/

911 call the reporting party sounds scared.

that's the residential alarm going off in the background in case someone thinks its a car siren

[Sensei]

http://www.wsoctv.com/videos/news/91...ooting/vCCg6t/

911 call the reporting party sounds scared.

I could not help but notice that woman wan looking for her husband's gun. Good lesson - when you need a gun, you really need a gun

[T2C]

Or bath salts, cocaine, meth, alcohol...

I'm betting that his tox results will not be clean. For what it's worth, I take care my share of head injuries; maybe one or two per shift. For the most part, people who are concussed tend to be slow and confused. The agitated delirium types almost always have some substance on board in addition to their head injury.

So the big question that I have is: goes a positive drug screen change things in terms of the legality of the shooting?

Valid point about other substances. I had a subject charge at me when PCP was popular. It was not good. The Charge Nurse at the Hospital ER gave me a lot of attitude until the same person injured two nurses and a doctor while they were treating him. She really changed her point of view after it took six people to put him in restraints.

We did not have ECD's back then, only 26" wood batons.

[J-Dub]

http://www.policeone.com/legal/artic...cessive-force/

A very good read and look in to the realm of what these guys had to process in seconds.

It all boils down to....

"First, what was the severity of the crime that the officer believed the suspect to have committed or be committing? Second, did the suspect present an immediate threat to the safety of officers or the public? Third, was the suspect actively resisting arrest or attempting to escape? "

and

"the calculus of reasonableness must embody allowance for the fact that police officers are often forced to make split-second judgments–in circumstances that are tense, uncertain, and rapidly evolving–about the amount of force that is necessary in a particular situation."

[T2C]

http://www.policeone.com/legal/artic...cessive-force/

A very good read and look in to the realm of what these guys had to process in seconds.

It all boils down to....

"First, what was the severity of the crime that the officer believed the suspect to have committed or be committing? Second, did the suspect present an immediate threat to the safety of officers or the public? Third, was the suspect actively resisting arrest or attempting to escape? "

and

"the calculus of reasonableness must embody allowance for the fact that police officers are often forced to make split-second judgments–in circumstances that are tense, uncertain, and rapidly evolving–about the amount of force that is necessary in a particular situation."

These points may be the basis for the defense when the officer has his day in court.