Illegals chain themselves to White House fence.

[RearwardAssist]

I am the first in my family to be born in the USA. My family fled Cuba as political refugees and didn't get any government handouts. They busted their asses and worked hard. I've had family in every conflict and branch of service since Vietnam (including me). We have been business owners, cops, fire fighters, teachers, and stay at home parents.

We love this country and the freedoms it has provided. We have fought, bleed, cried, and died for this country. Our home is this country and no one in my family or I approve of and support illegal immigration. We did it the right and we support those doing it the right way. Those that don't can go suck start a car through the muffler.

Did it the right way? Making it onto US soil?

[Caduceus]

I get it that we have it good compared to third world countries. I'm first generation in the US as well. My family came from a poor farming community in Greece. They immigrated to the US legally, worked hard, played by the rules, & made a great life for themselves & their kids.

Key part of the story... They immigrated LEGALLY.

I feel bad for the unfortunate people of the world, but not so bad that I desire to finance them. If I don't follow the rules, I go to jail. If illegals don't follow the rules, the gov't gives them a free ride on my dime. Some system we have here.

That's the crux of the problem; the free ride. Sure, there are the hard working immigrants. then there are the rest, free-loading, "my kid's born here so I can't be deported" or worse "my illegal kid is entitled the same rights and access to school/college" non-tax paying kinds.

Pay taxes? Fine. Go get your green card and do it right. Don't? GTFO. Leave your citizen-kids if you want; our social net is great (sarcasm intended) for your spawn.



Coming from someone whose grandmother rode past dead bodies during the Mexican Revolution as a child, and didn't get citizenship for 20 years ...

[The_War_Wagon]

They need to chain themselves to a gang, and come re-pave the main thoroughfare on my boro!

"Take that shovel & put 'er to some good use, boy!"

- Slim Pickens, "Blazing Saddles" - 1974 -

[Dienekes]

So--inasmuch as many if not most countries in the world treat their citizens worse than ours does, how many foreigners do you want to absorb?

To make it somewhat more immediate, how many extended family members do you want to move in with you, raid the fridge, sleep on the floor, want handouts, borrow your car, and tell you you are narrow minded and aren't being compassionate enough? And, oh look, another carful just pulled up to the door.

This is not to say that many illegals aren't decent people by any means. But the US has been a patsy and safety valve for corrupt, failed governments for decades. They don't give a damn about their own people and barring major reforms never will. Unscrupulous employers and pandering politicians in the US don't care about those people either except for what they can get out of them.

Be grateful we don't have another Third World country on the northern border...


The more you know about the whole sordid business the more you will feel the need for a bath. Learn too much about it and you may never feel clean again.

Edward Abbey once observed that we should give every illegal (yes, ILLEGAL) we sent back a rifle and a case of ammo to use against his government.

He had a point there.

[RogerinTPA]

Their plight will be felt by the progressives and will be the first group to be granted immunity, green cards, the whole 9 yards.

[Miami_JBT]

Did it the right way? Making it onto US soil?

Flew into Miami International Airport in May of 1961 and applied for Refugee Status at customs. Once that hurdle was clear they applied for US Citizenship and played by the rules much like the folks fleeing the USSR, DDR, and other communist nations.

They didn't sneak past USCG and try the game of wet foot dry foot. They went through US Customs at an International Airport and pleaded for political refugee status and later went through the legal alien and citizenship process.

[skydivr]

Can we just leave them chained to the fence and let mother nature run it's course?

Frankly, none of the discussion means squat until/unless we STOP THE FLOW AND CLOSE THE BORDER (which is what Republicans tried to do). Will we ever be able to ship all those here illegally back? Strongly doubt it. But we cannot even BEGIN to deal with it until the illegal flow STOPS.

[NWPilgrim]

Can we just leave them chained to the fence and let mother nature run it's course?

Frankly, none of the discussion means squat until/unless we STOP THE FLOW AND CLOSE THE BORDER (which is what Republicans tried to do). Will we ever be able to ship all those here illegally back? Strongly doubt it. But we cannot even BEGIN to deal with it until the illegal flow STOPS.

Exactly. But stopping the flow is the least addressed element of any proposed plan. Even if such a law were passed we see the admin will not enforce it.

[SteyrAUG]

This has always been so odd to me.

As someone who "grew up" in Florida and in the Marine Corps I always thought hispanics were Republican. In the 2000 and 2004 elections all the Cubans were at the Bush rallys. I was deployed to Iraq in 2008 and watched every Hispanic I knew berate Barack Obama to the point that we almost had black vs. hispanic fights breaking out before the election....I really can't get on to the fabweld's bandwagon. Many of those hispanic Marines crossed the border illegally as children and to this day I would rather have them as neighbors that virtually any born-and-raised American that I know. I'm telling you, those arguments were getting so out of hand that the Battalion CO had to personally come to each FOB just to hand out policy letters and speak to Marines and get them to chill the **** out.

While I now understand not all illegal immigrants are the type that join Uncle Sam's Mexican Clique, I still can't sit here and say that they are a bunch of taxpayer fed and educated leeches on society. They should definitely not be allowed to get here illegally and we need to do some shit to secure the border right ****ing now. But the point is there are millions here and millions of their relatives are voting (D) because that's the party that is going to give them a chance at being an American.

I do not know the solution. But I do know rounding up 10,000,000 Mexicans and sending them back home isn't going to happen.

Cubans fleeing communism have virtually nothing in common with Mexicans jumping fences for free services and shit.

[SilverBullet432]

Mexicans jumping fences for free services and shit.

some of them do actually come to better themselves you know. the ones who are demanding free shit are the moochers.