Kel-Tec KSG Initial Impressions

**LowSpeed_HighDrag** · 10-15-13, 00:44

Originally Posted by ezveedub

You mean a combo of those 3 parts PLUS the $160-$240 for a full mag tube and the $1500-$1800 for the Benelli M4.

You basically only need the trigger parts kit for $150 and the full mag tube for $160 plus the price of the M4. But that's still not a cheap setup and will be a deal breaker for most just to get a semi-auto shotgun 922r legal with added capacity. And no firearm is bullet proof 100% reliable, as Benelli M4s have had various reported function issues just every other shotgun out there.

You said $600 earlier right? I proved that it costs nowhere near that. Sometimes you need to pay more to get a better shotgun if that is what you truly seek. If you are going to sit here and tell me that the M4 has more reported issues of failure than the 930, then you are either ignoring facts or simply havent done any research. Yes, the M4 costs alot of money, but so does a good ballistic vest vs a subpar vest. An Aimpoint costs considerably more than a Primary Arms Red Dot. I could go on. The price for reliability and design far outweigh the cost of ownership of a subpar item over its lifetime.

But, we are WAY off track here. As far as the Kel Tec KSG goes. The best indiciation of its quality for me was in the name, "Kel Tec", and therefore I never gave it so much as a passing glance.

**ezveedub** · 10-15-13, 10:22

Originally Posted by LowSpeed_HighDrag

You said $600 earlier right? I proved that it costs nowhere near that. Sometimes you need to pay more to get a better shotgun if that is what you truly seek. If you are going to sit here and tell me that the M4 has more reported issues of failure than the 930, then you are either ignoring facts or simply havent done any research. Yes, the M4 costs alot of money, but so does a good ballistic vest vs a subpar vest. An Aimpoint costs considerably more than a Primary Arms Red Dot. I could go on. The price for reliability and design far outweigh the cost of ownership of a subpar item over its lifetime.

But, we are WAY off track here. As far as the Kel Tec KSG goes. The best indiciation of its quality for me was in the name, "Kel Tec", and therefore I never gave it so much as a passing glance.

I never said $600 for anything. I was quoting an earlier post that said for $600 more and a full extended mag tube, you could have gotten a Benelli over the KSG, to which I disagree. If you want a semi-auto shotgun at the original price of KSG, go with a 930 SPX.

The KSG at its original MSRP of $880, with a street price of $750s was good, but when it went to a MSRP of $1000, then selling for $1300 and up is when it's no longer really worth it IMO. A KSG and a Benelli are two different shotguns, so have no clue why the Benelli got thrown into this thread.

**RHINOWSO** · 10-16-13, 12:19

Originally Posted by ezveedub

A KSG and a Benelli are two different shotguns, so have no clue why the Benelli got thrown into this thread.

Yeah, a bubba range toy that will never see or stand up to serious use vs the gold standard of working semi-auto shotguns.

**jamaicanj** · 10-16-13, 12:47

Thanks for sharing

**HKGuns** · 10-19-13, 21:47

Originally Posted by RHINOWSO

Yeah, a bubba range toy that will never see or stand up to serious use vs the gold standard of working semi-auto shotguns.

I think that is rather harsh and very pre-mature, all things considered. Where is the innovation at Remington or Mossberg beyond the

"Chainsaw"

I wouldn't be surprised if to see one or more of the B-gun MFG's come out with something competitive.

If your comment is centered on it being a "Kel-Tec" I don't own very many of them but my little Kel-Tec P-32 has never missed a beat.

For the record, I am no "Bubba".

**anubismp** · 10-19-13, 21:57

I'm not saying I wouldn't prefer a different name on it but I've had guns by "great" manufacturers choke. I think you should clear a few corners or doorways with one and when you are done I'd love to hear your impressions. So far the only problem seems to be short stroking it which I haven't had a problem with.

**anubismp** · 10-19-13, 22:07

Also in fairness while some if their stuff is cheap they sell it cheap too. Their expensive stuff feels like quality. I think that's not a ding against them. The only thing I'd like beefier in the KSG is the DFE and even then I've had no issues it just feels slim. As for bubba I feel my collection is pretty classy and the only teeth I don't have the Army stole.

**RHINOWSO** · 10-19-13, 22:10

Originally Posted by HKGuns

I think that is rather harsh and very pre-mature, all things considered. Where is the innovation at Remington or Mossberg beyond the

"Chainsaw"

I wouldn't be surprised if to see one or more of the B-gun MFG's come out with something competitive.

If your comment is centered on it being a "Kel-Tec" I don't own very many of them but my little Kel-Tec P-32 has never missed a beat.

For the record, I am no "Bubba".

When 100% of KSG users aren't just fingering f-ing them at the range and some agency / unit, somewhere adopts it for serious use and it doesn't fail them after being used, then we'll talk.