I'm curious what it is that the majority seem to be an 18in barrel with a fixed stock and 1-6 scope (and no iron sights).
Again, just curious how it seems to have come to that basic configuration.
<-- knows nothing about 3-gun
I'm curious what it is that the majority seem to be an 18in barrel with a fixed stock and 1-6 scope (and no iron sights).
Again, just curious how it seems to have come to that basic configuration.
<-- knows nothing about 3-gun
Dan Miami, FL
Simple. The 18 inch barrel is the shortest barrel that will run with a rifle gas system. A rifle gas system has the softest shooting recoil impulse. You don't need back up irons on a match rifle they are just extra weight. Off set sights are ok and can be helpful on some stages. The 1-4,5,6 scope is the most versatile optic class out there. We shoot from in your face hoser stages out to 500 yards. Take a look at my you tube videos for some three gun matches and you will see what we shoot.
Pat
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Barrel and stock-Recoil impulse, you want it smoooooooth. I have an adjustable stock, but it's an A5.
No irons-Because if your optic goes down in a stage you can flip up back ups, but you'll already be screwed for time anyway. Not so with off sets, which some guys like, but they're really not intended as back ups anyway for the guys I know that have them.
1-6---Because it's more better than 1-4.
IMHO
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Fixed stock because...well...it's one last thing to have set wrong, and I prefer the A2 length. Also, the fixed stock seems to counter the weight of the 18" barrel pretty well.
3 Gun is usually a very accepting sport where we encourage everyone to just run what they have. The experienced shooters are more than willing to give you a hand and answer any questions you may have.
Hell, just ask Duane Liptak from MagPul(formerly PoliceStore.com). The first year for the Pro/Am 3gun at Rock Castle in Kentucky I was squadded with the Brownells/Sinclair/Police Store crew and Duane damn near won the event running an AK74 and Sagia.
He's also a super nice guy.
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It's interesting because I've been planning out an 18in precision build using a PRS stock and then recently saw someone using a PRS stock for their 3-gun rifle ......... so it got me thinking lol. I don't have the PRS but thought it was considered a rather heavy stock, which was not a factor for my precision intent.
In the meantime I may as well try it out just using my 14.5 (my 20in A2 is my highpower rifle and it weights 13lbs )
The 14.5 (pinned out)
Last edited by danpass; 09-23-13 at 09:24.
Dan Miami, FL
That's a nice rifle. Go shoot it at some matches. You may decide it's perfect for you. I would never suggest someone build or buy when they already have an AR and haven't shot many or any matches. You won't know what, if anything, you want to change until you get some time in on the clock.
I used a PRS for my 3-gun build because I chose a heavy-ish barrel and it balanced the gun out nicely. Added benefit was the adjustable cheek weld. Some people prefer a lighter rifle, the more I shoot, the more I like a rifle with a bit of heft. It's less 'nervous' on longer shots although I'm certain that I don't swing it as fast on transitions up close. It works for me but after a few seasons I can't say I won't wind up building something lighter.... It's a constant evolution. It's been a combination of improvement and bumping up against self imposed limitations of inferior equipment and balancing the cost of upgrading as more practice and more matches has improved my shooting somewhat. I'm not in the top 10% at a major like I want to be someday, nor am I winning any stages, but I don't totally bomb stages anymore (mostly ) and occasionally I will beat a respectable number of 'pros' on some stages at a major.
You will know when you shoot a match and a piece of gear holds you back. Until you reach that certainty, run what you got and have fun!
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