Kerry signing UN Arms Trade Treaty tomorrow (9/25)

[jpmuscle]

Not all of those 53 Democrats are anti gun either. One of our senators is democrat and pro gun.

God I would hope so being in Alaska.

As for the treaty clamping down on the illicit arms trade I'm pretty sure our gov has no credibility when it comes to that sorta thing..

[Alaskapopo]

God I would hope so being in Alaska.

As for the treaty clamping down on the illicit arms trade I'm pretty sure our gov has no credibility when it comes to that sorta thing..

That is kind of the point rather your pro gun or anti gun really has more to do with where you are from vs which political party you are. A New Jersey Republican is likely to be anti gun while a Texas Democrat is likely to be pro gun.
Pat

[Moose-Knuckle]

Mission creep anyone . . .

CMP, NFA trusts, UN Small Arms Treaty . . . Barry is going to infringe upon the 2nd anyone he can.

Q: How do you eat an elephant?
A: One bite at a time.

[jpmuscle]

Mission creep anyone . . .

CMP, NFA trusts, UN Small Arms Treaty . . . Barry is going to infringe upon the 2nd anyone he can.

Well that and the thought of conceding any notion of supremacy to a world level organization being American would be downright laughable if it wasn't so disconcerting.

It enrages me to no end that not enough can see the chess pieces on the table and what their end play will be.. It is not one that ends well for the common person.

[feedramp]

http://www.foreign.senate.gov/press/...ce-and-consent

[Grand58742]

Have you actually read the text of the treaty itself? What in that text leads you to that conclusion?

http://treaties.un.org/doc/Treaties/...08.pdf#page=21

The treaty is about illicit arms trade. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the very legal and tightly regulated US importation of foreign-made arms and ammunition.

Here's the problem, you aren't thinking about this like a liberal would. Guns = bad = pain and suffering = crimes against humanity = must do something about it.

I've read it and the language is way too vague to determine whether or not this could be implemented in the US even by bypassing Congress. Quite a few things in there that could give our good POTUS ideas on chopping imports since verbiage in Article 6 (3) speaks about "crimes against humanity."

And as imports and bans of such don't fall under Congressional purview, this treaty can be implemented without the Senate ever ratifying it. In fact, he's already started it with this "military surplus import ban" that suspiciously still isn't on record on whitehouse.gov so nobody knows exactly what it says except for the fact sheet handed out. And even that uses a very vague and generic "military grade firearms."

So if one was to combine the ambiguity in the UN treaty with the complete lack of information from the POTUS and mix in a little good old fashioned liberal backstabbing, misdirection and continued destruction of the Constitution?

Admiral Ackbar would say it best. "It's a trap!"

I'm not getting a warm fuzzy that this just happens to be a feel good measure that makes the UN happy they got us to finally sign it. I'd be watching for some of those keywords out of this treaty to start flowing out of politicians mouths in the next few months. Bank on it.

[Caeser25]

Apparently the chair of the senate foreign relations commitee isnt aware that it needs ratified by the senate if his recommendation is not to implement it without advice and consent

http://www.foreign.senate.gov/press/...ce-and-consent

[SteveS]

Kerry is doing the job he was hired to do. What I see is that if the treaty is signed " screw the constitution as the people who have taken a oath to protect it don't know what the constitution is anyway"
The blue helmets will then have to help the U.S government / military/ home land security,Russian troops confiscate the privately owned firearms. I can already hear the manchurian candidate Juan Mccain say you have to uphold the treaty.

[austinN4]

Abbott warns arms treaty could spur Texas to sue

"But Abbott said the treaty, if ratified by the U.S. Senate, would endanger the right to keep and bear arms as protected by the U.S. Constitution."

Full text: http://www.statesman.com/news/news/a...-to-sue/nZ7K4/

[feedramp]

Senate website incorrect on 2nd Amendment application:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...mendment-Wrong