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Thread: 2014: Year of the Chinese AR?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rojocorsa View Post
    http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...-15-receivers/



    The above quote is what got my attention, so I wanted to pass it along.
    This is already happening. I get offers all the time for foreign made parts.

    My guess is that some budget AR manufacturers and dealers are already taking these companies up on their offers.



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    Chicom ARs? Eff that...
    Never sit at the bargaining table with an empty stomach.

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    Manufacturing parts for AR's is quite simple when compared to parts for the hydraulic industry(which china already does). My company does high precision centerless and cylindrical grinding. Typical tolerance on hydraulic spools are +/-.00005" The most accurate part of a bolt is +/-.0002" Saftey selectors are finish ground to .0015" or .003" depending on the end user. Still I boycott Chinese products!

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    There is no way I could trust any of those parts from China. I have little knowledge of the industrial sector in China and their metallurgy. I do however have quite a bit of comsumer experience with metal products made in China like I am sure you all do too, mainly steel products purchased in the past. It is all complete crap, too many air bubbles in their metal causing it to crack far to easly.

    From all of the posts I have seen of rifles that have exploded, the user walked away with maybe a minor scratch. I attribute this not just to the overall design strength of the ar15/m4 platform but also to quality metals. I just have a gut feeling people will get hurt far worse then needed supplementing this cheap Chinese metal.
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    Doesn't " can't assemble a firearm with more then 10 foreign parts " still apply??


    On the 80% lower receiver, it can't be marked "Made in USA" right??
    Since at least 75% of the work / materials are not of U.S. origin.

    Just wondering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    This is already happening. I get offers all the time for foreign made parts.

    My guess is that some budget AR manufacturers and dealers are already taking these companies up on their offers.



    C4

    Yup...I have been getting daily email solicitations...they go straight to the trash. Makes you wonder where all these new companies with tons of BCGs were getting BCG parts from, during the panic. Stick with reputable manufacturers and dealers!




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    I doubt a Chinese AR could be any cheaper than, say a S&W m&p sport AR at about $600.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ky2970 View Post
    I would never... even the KA-BAR is made in China now
    I agree I wouldn't get one. The Kabar is still made in the U.S. though. The sheath is just made in Mexico. The company Kabar does manufacture some products in China but the classic Kabar is not one of them.

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    How, if at all would, this International Arms Treaty factor in?

    Personally, I would stay with CONUS makers. In other market segments, for example hand and power tools, we've seen a flood of offshore manf tools come in and take over in the name of people wanting cheap stuff. These tools have shown to be lower quality in both manf and materials. The saying of Buy Once Cry Once does apply. If it is safe to apply what I've learned about tools to AR15s, I'll stick with a CONUS manf. And if there is debate about US manf and a divide of what a quality AR15 is, I don't see how an offshore AR15 would be considered any different.

    Oh, what you do have to watch out for, like we see a lot of is "Assembled in the USA". The rest of that is "of ChiTai parts"

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    Quote Originally Posted by VIP3R 237 View Post
    I bet you will see more and more of this happening as costs continue to rise.

    We are looking into getting 80% or forging blanks from China as well as other parts, as our investor already has manufacturing experience and connections in the region. As long as the quality is good the savings may be worth it.

    The Chinese know what they are doing in manufacturing, it isn't rocket science to make lowers. Look at all of the Apple and Samsung products coming from china, as well as the auto parts.
    I'd never buy it.


    Why? Because I'd rather pay more and employ citizens of my own country. Also, because I've never seen anything worth a damn come out of China that wasn't Chinese to begin with. It's like American made AK-47's. They usually suck.

    Now whether that applies to the forgings or not, I just don't care. I don't have a good connotation with "Made in China", and that's that. All of the technical fact in the world won't change it.

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