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Thread: Reason #674 to not buy a Bushmaster

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    Anyone who purchases a BM or any other commercial grade AR with out using due diligence gets what they deserve.
    For God and the soldier we adore, In time of danger, not before! The danger passed, and all things righted, God is forgotten and the soldier slighted." - Rudyard Kipling

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    A lot of new people get into ARs all the time. Lots of LGS will push cheap guns for a quick sale to people that don't know better at the time. They rely on some idiot at the store, and they get stuck with a retarded product.
    It's really sad to see that our own industry does this to us, from manufacture, to gun store, to consumer. It seems to collectively dumb down the masses.
    I cringe when I hear about somebody buying some DPMS, Bushmaster, RRA, Olympic, etc crap. I especially cringe when they buy some way overpriced shiny shit like BRO for a higher price than a true tier one gun! Drives me crazy.

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    Serious question: Is the BM sold today inferior in quality to one from the late 90s? Or has BM always been a "hobby gun?" How would we know?

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    They definitely did not have their act going right back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abraham View Post
    $180.00 represents a lot of money for some.

    I know a guy who works for Walmart, makes very little money and owns a BM. He's embarrassed to admit he owns this brand as he knows it's loe quality level, but told me it was all he could afford. He bought it used for a fairly low cost.

    He loves to shoot and so far his BM has delivered.
    But if 180 bucks is a lot? You shouldnt be spending a thousand on a toy. If you join the army etc, you cant take the gun with you they will be giving you one. These things are like owning a vett, when a toyo corrola will last longer,you dont need it, you want it. You can have just as much fun with a ruger 10/22, I didnt buy mine becouse i had to, I bought it becouse i wanted one, for a grand you can buy one hell of a nice rifle.That has pretty checkered wood etc.

    It doesnt help that every gun store you walk into,the guy behind the counter tells you these things{bushy rra dpms} are the best ever. BUT they are there to make a buck! Thats it. BUY IT AND ENJOY IT, Dont let people make you feel bad about it,for most people they will be tired of it before it breaks anyway and part are everywere for these things.

    I dont thinks theres a rifle on the market any more easy to work on or fix than these things, be real! They have no recoil and you can pick one up made on the 80s and put the parts in one made today and it should work. thats the point, the problem with the internet is everyone has something to say EVEN if they know nothing about what their saying!
    Funny how on here RRA rifles are a piece, but the feds are using them so are the prison systems and the only problems their having is breaking bolts in high round count rifles. Which ones dont do this? they all do. Some guys always gona have more money than you always, dont let people run you down becouse of that, becouse those people talk all that crap becouse their unhappy,BE happy and live life its way to short for this crap! If you carry a gun for a living, you will be given one,very very few police etc, let you carry what you want ,you carry what they give you, I have been there!
    Last edited by texasgunhand; 10-23-13 at 01:22.

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    I can remember back back in the days before we had to deal with enemies in unpleasant places around the globe that there was plenty in controversy regarding the commercial grade ARs of the day, which I'm pretty sure included Colt and BM. I had a CA ban version of the Colt, and while I didn't have any problems with it, neither did I shoot it enough to really stress it's parts. In those years, there was as much scuttlebutt about Colt's problems as anyone else's.

    I run ranges for TFs now, and see a mix of Colts and commercial grades, to include BMs and RRAs. All of these guns were acquired by their agencies before the mass hysteria of 2012-13, and I haven't seen any having problems other than an older RRA LAR15 that had to be repaired by an armorer, and it was probably spring related. LE guns are not always acquired fir cost reasons alone, and most departments perform some type of testing and evaluation before buying.

    I realize that the quality of commercial grade guns makes them what they are, but that, in it's own does not make them less reliable for what they're built for. The problem is quality control at the factory, and some respected handgun manufacturers have had the same problems during the past couple of years. Gun makers can't keep up with demand. Gun shops are going to sell whatever they can get their hands on to make money. My suggestion is to be an informed buulyer before rushing in to plunk down money on something that you're either going to run like heck or use as a closet dust magnet. And if a manufacturer shoots like a piece of garbage, hold their feet to the fire.
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    "He bought it USED at a fairly low cost." I posted this earlier... He didn't spend a great deal for this BM and it works.

    Had he bought it new, I'd rag on him too, but since he makes damn little money and wanted an AR, so he did what he could.

    I too believe in quality and have the means to afford it, so I own Colts. This poor guy can't afford quality right now, but once he finishes school, I'm sure he'll move on up in quality. He knows the difference.

    In the mean time...

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