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Thread: Vertical VS Angled Foregrip

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rikakiah View Post
    How do you mean? I've only handled it around the house and at the range--no competitions or scenario-type stuff. Curious to open my opinion/options. I think the RVG is the one I tried, still have it in the closet. I did really like it, just liked the afg slightly better (Magpul's AFG2, I believe-the smaller one) with the flat center piece.

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    Sometimes you can't use both hands. In fact, during AMIS training, I shot a guy in the wrist with a simunition. Had it been a real bullet, and him using an M4 carbine, and us further away, what could he have done? He would have only 1 hand, now, to manipulate the carbine. Lets say I had nipped him with a lucky 9mm round while he was hunkering down behind his police cruiser (I'll play the badguy, here). Extremities are OFTEN shot as they hold the weapon in front of what is normally targeted (high chest/head).

    Anyway, now he can...rest the rifle across the cruiser. Every shot he takes will move it and he will not have a stable platform. Cruisers look flat until you rest something on the hood or trunk that recoils. Then it skitters all around, even with 5.56 recoil. Or, if he has a VFG, he can put it to use stabilizing his platform. Obviously my laundry hamper is not the front tire of a P71, but you get the idea...


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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    +1

    Training with Kyle Lamb really underscored that, for me. All of my guns have Magpul RVG's. They are cheap, light, durable, blah blah blah
    Forgive the ignorance again,but what is a Magpul RVG and how do you use it?
    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer Angel View Post
    Forgive the ignorance again,but what is a Magpul RVG and how do you use it?
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    Rail Vertical Grip. It's Magpul's cheap/effective VFG, made for thumb-over-bore shooting style. See my post above for usage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    Rail Vertical Grip. It's Magpul's cheap/effective VFG, made for thumb-over-bore shooting style. See my post above for usage.
    Just a quick interjection:

    I think that the best way to describe it is as being able to be used thumb over bore, as shooting it with thumb parallel to bore works fine as well.
    This is in contrast to items like the GripPod, where a high/non-chicken-choker grip is distinctly un-fun.

    Since we are on the topic, I find the RVG to be my go-to VFG. I also like the KAC version (used them for around a decade, so there is naturally going to be some habitual cross-over), but it's a bit on the pricey side (if bought new) and locking technology has come a long way since they first came out. The TD stubby is decent as well, especially if you want one on a QD. There are others out there that look ok, I just have a hard time going to anything else when the MagPul offering is so cost-effective and available.
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    I prefer vfg's with the chicken choker grip. It was born out of habit and I don't think I will change anytime soon. I would probably be a faster shooter if I switched to the afg, a stubby grip combined with a c clamp grip, or left the underside smooth, but I simply won't switch.
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    I ran an AFG for a couple classes and found I preferred a stubby VFG, in my case it has been the Troy. I am probably getting ready to dump it. I just picked up a new rail to lighten up my rifle a little more and will probably buy an XTM hand stop kit and if I don't like the switch over to the RVG.

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    I think personal preference is directly tied to your everyday use and carry of the weapon, not just comfort when actually shooting. No offense to anyone who prefers it, but I found the AFG to be unsuitable for the dismounted patrolling that I'm used to doing in the Army. I haven't been out on the ground as much as a lot of guys, but on the extended combat patrols I've done, and in MOUT training, I found that controlling my weapon to look around corners and over walls, shine a light into dark places, and just carrying it at the ready for long periods of time was much more comfortable with a VFG. I bought into the hype when the AFG was new and took one with me to Afghanistan (after using a VFG on two tours in Iraq), and I found it uncomfortable and awkward, as did a guy that I had to periodically loan my M4 to. I haven't done as much training outside of the Army as I'd like to, but it struck me that the AFG was designed by competitive shooters who may not have to handle a weapon in that type of environment. I know that's not totally fair, because those guys have a lot of shooting experience, but for me, it forces me into one specific grip that is ideal for standing and engaging targets, but may not be practical in all situations.

    I switched to a stubby VFG (Tango Down, FWIW) and find that to be much more versatile for me, in that it can be used as a "handle" with my thumb forward, a hand stop, or in an angled manner (hand half on the rail, half on the VFG, thumb over the top), while transitioning quickly between grips.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ACR_Scout View Post
    I think personal preference is directly tied to your everyday use and carry of the weapon, not just comfort when actually shooting. No offense to anyone who prefers it, but I found the AFG to be unsuitable for the dismounted patrolling that I'm used to doing in the Army. I haven't been out on the ground as much as a lot of guys, but on the extended combat patrols I've done, and in MOUT training, I found that controlling my weapon to look around corners and over walls, shine a light into dark places, and just carrying it at the ready for long periods of time was much more comfortable with a VFG. I bought into the hype when the AFG was new and took one with me to Afghanistan (after using a VFG on two tours in Iraq), and I found it uncomfortable and awkward, as did a guy that I had to periodically loan my M4 to. I haven't done as much training outside of the Army as I'd like to, but it struck me that the AFG was designed by competitive shooters who may not have to handle a weapon in that type of environment. I know that's not totally fair, because those guys have a lot of shooting experience, but for me, it forces me into one specific grip that is ideal for standing and engaging targets, but may not be practical in all situations.

    I switched to a stubby VFG (Tango Down, FWIW) and find that to be much more versatile for me, in that it can be used as a "handle" with my thumb forward, a hand stop, or in an angled manner (hand half on the rail, half on the VFG, thumb over the top), while transitioning quickly between grips.

    Dave
    I came to the same conclusion in pretty much the same way. Though I don't think the AFG was around in 05 for my last tour. If it was it wasn't super popular then. I just kept my rifle rail smooth as the bipod already look up a bunch of hand space.

    When I started carrying my rifle as a LEO I found it a lot easier to operate my light with a VFG than anything else. I now use a stubby VFG.
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    I like a stubby VFG. I wish Magpul made a short VFG. I might cut mine down.

    Anyway....I tried AFG, but being left handed the hot brass burnt and cut up my right arm, yes, literally CUT my arm. I know I know, I'm a baby.

    Any Southpaws use the AFG with a standard right handed upper?

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    Definitely personal preference but I can't stand seeing people grip their vertical grip like it's going out of style. I do prefer a vertical grip but I only use it for a hand stop.

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