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    Watching the GOP press conference now. Bunch of spineless wimps who are looking to cave.
    “Answer The Bell...” J.W.

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    I must study politics and war, that our sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. - John Adams

    The AK guys are all about the reach around. - Garand Thumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javelin View Post
    Nothing to say. We lost they [big government and big corporate America won].
    This is the hardest concept for a lot of would be "conservatives" to understand - both Big Govt and Big Corp are conspiring (Crony Capitalism, Corporations Are People Too) to squeeze, marginalize, and disenfranchise your average American.

    A lot of the Gops here think the Gops in Congress are "caving", they are not. They are actually following the instructions they are being given by Wall Street and Multinational Banks.

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    obama in 2006 his own words on the debt ceiling

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-20...t1-PgS2236.pdf


    Mr. OBAMA. Mr. President, I rise today to talk about America’s debt problem.
    The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now de- pend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies.
    Over the past 5 years, our federal debt has increased by $3.5 trillion to $8.6 trillion. That is ‘‘trillion’’ with a ‘‘T.’’ That is money that we have bor- rowed from the Social Security trust fund, borrowed from China and Japan, borrowed from American taxpayers. And over the next 5 years, between now and 2011, the President’s budget will in- crease the debt by almost another $3.5 trillion.
    Numbers that large are sometimes hard to understand. Some people may wonder why they matter. Here is why: This year, the Federal Government will spend $220 billion on interest. That is more money to pay interest on our na- tional debt than we’ll spend on Med- icaid and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program. That is more money to pay interest on our debt this year than we will spend on education,
    homeland security, transportation, and veterans benefits combined. It is more money in one year than we are likely to spend to rebuild the devastated gulf coast in a way that honors the best of America.
    And the cost of our debt is one of the fastest growing expenses in the Federal budget. This rising debt is a hidden do- mestic enemy, robbing our cities and States of critical investments in infra- structure like bridges, ports, and lev- ees; robbing our families and our chil- dren of critical investments in edu- cation and health care reform; robbing our seniors of the retirement and health security they have counted on.
    Every dollar we pay in interest is a dollar that is not going to investment in America’s priorities. Instead, inter- est payments are a significant tax on all Americans—a debt tax that Wash- ington doesn’t want to talk about. If Washington were serious about honest tax relief in this country, we would see an effort to reduce our national debt by returning to responsible fiscal policies.
    But we are not doing that. Despite repeated efforts by Senators CONRAD and FEINGOLD, the Senate continues to reject a return to the commonsense Pay-go rules that used to apply. Pre- viously, Pay-go rules applied both to increases in mandatory spending and to tax cuts. The Senate had to abide by the commonsense budgeting principle of balancing expenses and revenues. Unfortunately, the principle was aban- doned, and now the demands of budget discipline apply only to spending.
    As a result, tax breaks have not been paid for by reductions in Federal spending, and thus the only way to pay for them has been to increase our def- icit to historically high levels and bor- row more and more money. Now we have to pay for those tax breaks plus the cost of borrowing for them. Instead of reducing the deficit, as some people claimed, the fiscal policies of this ad- ministration and its allies in Congress will add more than $600 million in debt for each of the next 5 years. That is why I will once again cosponsor the Pay-go amendment and continue to hope that my colleagues will return to a smart rule that has worked in the past and can work again.
    Our debt also matters internation- ally. My friend, the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee, likes to remind us that it took 42 Presidents 224 years to run up only $1 trillion of for- eign-held debt. This administration did more than that in just 5 years. Now, there is nothing wrong with borrowing from foreign countries. But we must remember that the more we depend on foreign nations to lend us money, the more our economic security is tied to the whims of foreign leaders whose in- terests might not be aligned with ours.
    Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘‘the buck stops here.’’ Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grand- children. America has a debt problem
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    and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
    I therefore intend to oppose the ef- fort to increase America’s debt limit.

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