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    Quote Originally Posted by WickedWillis View Post
    From what I was told by a local FFL holder, They are not currently giving licences to anyone who does not have an actual storefront any longer. Could be BS but the gentleman is usually knowledgeable and said he had a hell of a time renewing his because of it.
    I have been hearing this same thing for awhile now, but cannot prove it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WickedWillis View Post
    From what I was told by a local FFL holder, They are not currently giving licences to anyone who does not have an actual storefront any longer. Could be BS but the gentleman is usually knowledgeable and said he had a hell of a time renewing his because of it.
    In some jurisdictions, regulations prevent you from operating as an FFL dealer out of your home. If I recall, it is so in California

    Quote Originally Posted by C4IGrant View Post
    This only works IF the gun stores are still around to transfer the item to you.

    Brick and mortar stores that are run by mom and pop are going away. On top of this, more and more dealers are pushing to NOT do transfers.

    So building a relationship with your local dealer is important. Buy a couple things a year from them to help their bottom line.

    The other advantage to building that relationship (as my local customers know), is that they can get a lot of armorer done for FREE. Certain parts for free, head of the line on things like fitted barrels, etc.


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    Once again, Grant hits the nail on the head. All my favorite gunshops, I've developed a good relationship with the guy running the place and always try to find something to buy when I visit. My favorite in Utah is Quantum Guns in Spanish Fork, although they are nowhere near being the closest. Why? Because I count the owner as a friend and get great customer service
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    Quote Originally Posted by WickedWillis View Post
    From what I was told by a local FFL holder, They are not currently giving licences to anyone who does not have an actual storefront any longer. Could be BS but the gentleman is usually knowledgeable and said he had a hell of a time renewing his because of it.
    Some smaller FFL holders, aka: kitchen table dealers, in my area did not renew their licenses, because it was becoming too much of a hassle for them.
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    Many young people don't know what it is to get service from a retailer.
    The box store experience is a good example. Service is taking care of the customer by standing behind products, helping with warranty issues, giving fair trades, and generally extending oneself to customers.
    The mom and pop gun store often gives good service, which is an invaluable offering. Discount stores during the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s put many out of business. Will the web finish the job?

    About ar's. I see many young guys with regular jobs buying the cheap brands. They hunt with them, plink, and participate in various fun but not critical activities. Some cheap ones serve as farm or ranch guns. In these rolls they are likely ok. Years ago I bought a Bushmaster and shot it about 1000 times and thought it was ok. I found out the B was a pos when I joined this forum.

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    I had almost forgotten this little anecdote. I went into a gun shop back in the spring or early summer and asked if they were an NFA dealer. The guy said yes and I mentioned that I was thinking of getting a suppressor. He told me they were not licensed to do that. It turns out that he didn't even know what NFA meant and had confused it with their FFL license when I had originally asked. After some more pointless discussion, he went on to tell me that barrells under 18" were illegal, while I stood there looking at him and the 16" carbine (can't remember the brand) hanging on the wall behind him. I never said a word, I just thanked him and went about my business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistWolf View Post
    In some jurisdictions, regulations prevent you from operating as an FFL dealer out of your home. If I recall, it is so in California
    Las Vegas doesn't allow home based FFL's but bordering Henderson does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas View Post
    Las Vegas doesn't allow home based FFL's but bordering Henderson does.
    Harry Reid have anything to do with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WickedWillis View Post
    From what I was told by a local FFL holder, They are not currently giving licences to anyone who does not have an actual storefront any longer. Could be BS but the gentleman is usually knowledgeable and said he had a hell of a time renewing his because of it.
    That's the reason for the existence of the store where I work. The owner wants it primarily to be an internet business, but he couldn't get a license without a store.
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    Again, depends on the local laws, primarily zoning laws here in FL. I have 2 kitchen table FFLs, one can transfer to you, the other can't due to zoning laws (no walk up business allowed where he lives - he tried to get an exemption but they wouldn't go for it).

    Even the I have a odd hours storefront the specializes in NFA and FFL transfers, he's ok to deal with as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoringGuy45 View Post
    I think it's a pretty broad brush to paint absolutely all us gun store employees as arrogant, ignorant idiots who have no place around firearms.

    I think the reason that most gun store employees are ill informed is because many are hired for the wrong reasons. Namely, they think they are good candidates for the job because they've been shooting for years and they own over fifty guns. The thing is, they shoot no more than a couple hundred rounds a year and the many guns they have were bought without one minute of research and most cost less than $150 a piece. They spent a couple years in the military once upon a time so the hiring manager thinks that must equal weapons expertise. That military time was spent as being a cook in the Air Force reserve and the weapons experience was the basic training qualification. They do a lot of research and have a lot of good sources for gun info. That research is Guns and Ammo, Field and Stream, Soldier of Fortune, and the guy at the bar who claims he is an ex-SEAL Team 6 operator.

    So yes, I admit, that most people in my field are not great sources. I don't like when people look at me like I'm a snob because I insist that I'm looking for a Colt when they insist that it's overpriced and I should get a DPMS, which is not only less expensive but actually better quality. But there are some really good, well read, and honest salesmen in this industry. I may not approach the level of expertise of someone like Grant, but I've done my research and I think that I have enough knowledge to help customers find a good quality product that will satisfy their needs.
    Totally agree here. I've worked part time in a LGS for the past 2.5 years and feel I do a pretty good job at it. Two college degrees, six years in the military, had my own gunsmith shop for a number of years, retired after 20 years in law enforcement and I shoot and reload quite a bit.

    Most of my knowledge is from hands-on experience and I try to impart some of this to my customers. I don't get commission so I really don't care if you spend $800 or $2,000 on a firearm. I'll give you my opinion on what I think is best for your particular situation and try to give you a few choices. What you choose is up to you as I hope you've done at least a little research on your own.

    And yes, most of my fellow employees are idiots and are just there for a paycheck. However, a good number of customers also fall into the idiot category. Many are know-it-alls and some just have pre-conceived ideas in what they want and no amount of information or logic will convince them otherwise. - I have built up a good customer base who come to me specifically and I try to give them good, honest advice.

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