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    Quote Originally Posted by SurplusShooter View Post
    reload for it or be forced to hang-it-up.
    The good news is that it is a very easily reloadable cartridge. I currently reload it for about $0.18/round with FMJ and W296 or H110 powder, and I've had some good luck in the past loading cast lead for substantially cheaper than that. I'm not even anywhere close to a bulk purchaser of components, and obviously you could shave several cents off that price if you bought more.

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    For defensive and training purposes, the AR is much better choice, so long as the "lower tier" AR is something like an S&W or a PSA with the right boxes checked off. Easier to mount optics, better sling choices and easier to get replacement parts. The 5.56 AR has better terminal performance, better selection of ammunition and better availability. It's ergonomics make the AR easier to handle and solve problems under pressure.

    If it's a matter of which one to get first, keep in mind M1 carbines aren't made anymore and sources have largely dried up
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    Doesnt Eric Utrecht use a RMR'd M1 Carbine in courses now?

    Anyways, if I had to choose and had no other option then it would be the AR15. The chances of catastrophic failure are lower than some would believe, I am familiar with the manual of arms, and 5.56 is IMO a much better defensive round than the .30.

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    I would buy a M1 carbine while you still can...they are getting hard to find andprices are jumping. Then buy a stripped lower and bcg as these were the only hard parts I had trouble finding last scare.

    There are still some decent priced M1s out there. Just keep your eyes very open and do a little research before buying. I got that desperate feeling and just picked one up. Paid 450 and got some mags and ammo...turned out I did well and got a 1943 manufacture with matching parts except the stock.

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    Not sure I even get the opening premise.

    Why opt for a sub-standard AR as opposed to anything? The M1 Carbine is an interesting and worthy acquisition in it's own right (assuming the right gun), but it doesn't strike me as terribly relevant to the discussion because it never really makes sense to spend good money on a flaky AR.

    Seems to me the only decision to be made here is whether the M1 Carbine is itself one of the more competent or desirable versions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tzed250 View Post

    Carbines by zweitakt250, on Flickr
    Wow, nice picture and great shooting range! Love the rifles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Army Chief View Post
    Not sure I even get the opening premise.

    Why opt for a sub-standard AR as opposed to anything? The M1 Carbine is an interesting and worthy acquisition in it's own right (assuming the right gun), but it doesn't strike me as terribly relevant to the discussion because it never really makes sense to spend good money on a flaky AR.

    Seems to me the only decision to be made here is whether the M1 Carbine is itself one of the more competent or desirable versions.

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    The premse was based on watching someone buy a sportical when there was a nice GI carbine in the rack for about the same price. Not knocking his purchase. I too might choose the DPMS if looking for a modern rifle. If I were having to pick for home defense I might pick the M1.

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    I really would just be saving funds for an acceptable M4...

    Heck, I haven't seen a decent M1 for less than the price of a 6920 in while now. If you're spending 6920 money on a rifle, the "lowest quality" I would accept would be the Colt. Unless you're coming up against a ban where you live, it makes no sense to buy a substandard rifle.

    That said, it sounds like the M1 is being picked up at a better price than market value. If it's around the price of an M&P15 I would be looking at the S&W instead. Their CS has been good, and while it's frustrating to deal with issues, if you get one of the (admittedly few) that happens to be a problem child you do know they'll take care of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tog View Post
    The premse was based on watching someone buy a sportical when there was a nice GI carbine in the rack for about the same price. Not knocking his purchase. I too might choose the DPMS if looking for a modern rifle. If I were having to pick for home defense I might pick the M1.
    Or he could of just left and purchased a quality AR elsewhere.

    Hard to put a value on the M1 without knowing the manuf. and condition.

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    The problem now is FINDING 30 Carbine ammo in any sort of quantity.

    You can buy bulk 223 now, all day long. Try finding more than 1-2 boxes (if you are lucky) of 30 Carbine ANYWHERE right now.

    (if you do find it....be prepared to pay around 30 bucks a box, too)

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