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M1.
Then get an AR when finances, opportunity or whatever comes your way...
If it were a value question, the M1 is much more collectible.
If it were a fighting question, I'd cheat and bring a 6920.
Ken Bloxton
Skill > Gear
m1 carbine has this cool vintage factor to it but that isn't what you are asking. i would never buy another low tier ar so i would deffinately take the m1 carbine. but if you decided to go ar i would take that money and get a top tier ar upper and as you saved money you could buy a lower or build one when you get some extra money here and there.
Depends on what you mean by "low tier" and how much heavy use you intend to put it thru. I think this is a "false dilemma", and here's why:
You Could pickup an entry-level S&W M&P-15 rifle for about the same price as a "shooter" USGI M1 Carbine, and _if_ you are that price limited then you probably also are not also going to buy 5K rounds of ammo and attend a bunch of Carbine classes. Searching around on these forums reveals that the S&W is at-least halfway decent (subject to much value-judgement) (M&P-15-Sport-Review
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=83136) so It sounds like that is one good route to go, no reason to have the "false dilemma" of a "low-tier AR".
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And now that I've stepped on that landmine... The Brand bashing and "why buy a Honda when you can save up your money and buy a Lamborghini" posts should follow soon. My apologies in advance.
Last edited by SurplusShooter; 10-09-13 at 22:31.
-SurplusShooter
YouTube: ResponsibleCitizen64
By your name, SurplusShooter, I'm assuming you like surplus arms. I just checked gunbroker. I can't believe the prices of m1 carbines. I've owned several over the years-rockola, winchester, inland, IBM, and another brand or two I can't recall. I once purchased one for $150 that came with 500 rnds of ammo. I shot up the ammo and then sold the rifle for $250. I miss those days! No landmines-you're safe.
Yeah, things were bad enough before but this latest swirl about the Executive Orders (blocking imports and all-that) has really pushed M1 Garands and M1 Carbines over-the-edge. Now is the absolute wrong time to buy a Carbine in Gunbroker. Heck, back in late '12 I paid around $1K for an IBM Carbine, and at the time I thought I overpaid like a sucker.... Looking at the crazy prices now on GunBroker puts it in perspective maybe I did okay
The 30-carbine ammo is a whole 'nother aspect to this: I bought some just at the last Month that CMP still sold it, now they are out. you can't get 30-Carbine except a few places online and it's more expensive. That situation is not going to get much better. Have you seen the prices on 6.5 Carcano ammo and other similarly obscure cartridges? Take a good long look because 30-Cabine will be like that eventually IMO.... reload for it or be forced to hang-it-up.
Last edited by SurplusShooter; 10-09-13 at 23:51.
-SurplusShooter
YouTube: ResponsibleCitizen64
Carbines by zweitakt250, on Flickr
John
If you spend much time around the guys who really, really know their craft, and who truly live this stuff, you tend to find that they are very soft-spoken and modest -- almost to the extreme. To my mind, that is a model worthy of emulation
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