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Thread: Battle Arms Development's new BAD-EPS (Enhanced Pin Set)

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    I told Roger I would give him an update when the weather changes as to my experience with the ETP and EPP. I was fortunate enough to be one of the beta testers and from the get go I thought these tiny pieces of equip were great, but that review is in the early pages of this thread so I will not harp on that. Today after work I had a few hours to kill so I packed up and went to the range. After a solid session and it starting to get dark I figured it would be a good time to give the ETP and EPP another look. Where I live it was in the mid 30's with wind chills in the 20's today. With my fingers freezing numb and stiff I decided to break down the 2 AR's I had with me, one was a DDV1 without the enhanced pins installed and the other a BCM build with the BAD enhanced pins installed. First I started the break down with my gloves on. The DD gave a bit of trouble, those that shoot in the cold know that this is usual for the pins to stiffen up and at times seem like they are not going to move. Another thing I could not get a good grip with my gloves on the standard pins that are on the DD, it is not a huge deal but something that can add time on to a situation where very second matters. Using a round works but again this is a time where the cold only adds time and frustration, sometimes a scratched lower or a dinged hand. After messing with the standard pins a few times I took the gloves off and used my bare hands. In the cold my hands get slippery and it is hard to get a positive grip on the pivot pin and take down pin heads. Again not a huge issue but still a pain in the ass.
    I then moved to the BCM with the enhanced pins installed. First with the gloves, easy, those groves in the pin heads really make a solid difference, even the small ones in the enhanced takedown pin. The pins did not reenact the small seizing effect that the standard pins yielded, I am sure it was due to the better grip on the pins themselves. Without gloves it was just as easy. Positive locking both while removal and install. The round indent in each pin is also great, they just work. While I had both rifles apart in front of me I decided to de-install the EPP and reinstall it, something many have done in the chilly cold but all who have done it know it can be a pain in the ass in any climate and it is anything but fun. The magnet and detent index mark made this a breeze and I seriously had cracked a small smile at how much easier it is.

    The last test was letting a friend I brought along try to give both rifles a quick upper/lower breakdown. He is absolutely inexperienced when it comes to anything related to firearms, of course I safety checked both rifles and with some instruction I let him start. He started with the BCM with the enhanced pins installed and the break down went off effortlessly. When he started to break down the DD he looked stumped and asked if something was different about the way the pins come out or how it is taken apart, after assuring him they break down the same he swore the rifle with the standard pins had something wrong with it, of course it did not.

    Final thoughts, while I know most of this feedback is repeated information and many individuals break down their rifles every day in temperatures below 0 with out an issue, I am just saying that we all know in cold weather even common things can become a bit tedious, our hands are not as fluent and comfortable, gloves may be worn etc and it makes small things harder to do. The ETP and EPP is a nice addition specially with experiences, climates like today. It becomes more obvious to me as to why BAD decided to integrate some of the features that they decided to incorporate with the ETP and EPP. Lots of though went into these and I will say it again they will be replacing all previous builds and they will be in all future builds.


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    Thank you for the thorough feedback and report!

    A reminder as the holidays season approaches, if you guys purchase directly from us and this is meant to be a gift, please put a note to that effect in shipping instructions. If not, please be sure to mention m4c
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    I will tell the wife maybe she can get on those lowers. Anytime Roger you know by now I am not good at short stories.


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    Haha, I will try not to spoil the surprise next time
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    Freshly installed BAD-EPS and BAD-ASS-ST.








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    Thank you

    For those with staked castle nut for their carbine receiver extension:


    Thank you Nate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duffy View Post
    Thank you

    For those with staked castle nut for their carbine receiver extension:


    Thank you Nate
    saw that vid a while ago. i like that guy's vids. He sure does love your products!!

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    I installed these pins, detents and springs on my latest build and they work as advertised. Very easy to take down, much easier than with normal pins. Nice job.

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    Nate is a good friend of mine and Battle Arms', but he is impartial as he must be to maintain his credibility as a reviewer. If he likes some of our products, it could be we haven't made any lemons yet

    Folks here were talking about removing / installing the take down pin without having to undo the castle nut staking. I figured it would be much easier to show this in a video, so I asked Nate to produce a short video on this trick, as it is relevant to the original topic
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    Thank you! The benefits will reveal themselves more when it's cold and wet, and your gloved fingers are not as nimble as they normally are in nice weather

    Quote Originally Posted by jb1911 View Post
    I installed these pins, detents and springs on my latest build and they work as advertised. Very easy to take down, much easier than with normal pins. Nice job.
    Roger Wang
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