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Last edited by VIP3R 237; 10-16-13 at 14:57.
Do you want to know how to get LE contracts?
On your companies dime, fly their armor and guest(s) to your facility, give them the full VIP treatment, hand out plenty of free t-shirts and hats, pick up the tab at the bar/restaurant every night, and maybe if time allows hit the range. Float out some "demo" rifles and provide plenty of ammo.
Sell them the rifle that meets their budget.
There should be women too. Pretty ones...
One of our members here was using one for a while in A'stan and as I recall many of the guys were having issues.
The DEA overseas teams using them would send them back to LWRC after arriving back in Quantico and LWRC would do some magic and then send them back. The field agents I spoke to told me that they were unaware what maintenance or parts were replaced, etc.. .
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Interesting, This is the first complaints I've heard about them. I'm a big BCM guy and recently bought a Daniel Defense which is also up there. Never had my BCM fail and all owners of LWRC I know have had good luck with their rifles.
I still think they are much higher quality than a RRA.
Better?
Last edited by britishtq; 10-16-13 at 18:12.
Iraqgunz is on the right track.
A standard was established for the required rifles based on the M-4 TDP (which alloys for receiver, bolt etc, HP/MPI testing, proper staking etc.). Test articles were submitted and Colt, SIG and RRA's samples met the standard so all three were given contracts but the FBI and DEA chose to purchase RRA. Who made the final choice between the three? A senior executive. Why? Cost most likely.
The US Capitol Police subsequently chose to purchase RRA off the existing contract to replace their troubled HK G36s. Why ? Because testing and contracting take time and cost money.
A better question is are the .GOV contract RRA M-4's supplied to the FBI and DEA the same as a commercial RRA M-4 ? I would say no. Same situation with Bushmasters TX DPS contract M-4.
The contract guns are all built to a standard: all guns HP/MPI tested, all with properly staked carrier keys and receiver extensions etc. vs. RRA and BM commercial guns which are not. For example, RRA and BM's commercial guns are batch tested (10 out of each 100 get MPI etc.) and BM does not stake receiver extensions on commercial guns. The contract guns are then inspected by agency armorers before final acceptance to ensure the standards are met.
Just like a Mil Spec M-4 is Mil Spec regardless of who makes it because it is built to a standard, the TDP, and that standard is enforced by the .MIL inspection and acceptance process.
The real knock on RRA and Bushmaster are they are capable of making quality guns when the want to but]choose[/I] not to to maximize profits.
Last edited by HCM; 10-16-13 at 18:17.
Agreed that staking certain parts is essential. Then why do some companies omit the step? My unqualified opinion is the necessary staking would consume little time so why skip it?
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