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Thread: Cured G17 eject prob....got questions still.

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    Cured G17 eject prob....got questions still.

    Early this morning I installed a new 30274 ejector in my 2 year old
    Gen 3 G17. While its been 100% reliable for about 2000 rnds or so...it literally dribbled empties out of the gun...or usually in my face, head or shoulder area. Had a Great 4-5 hours at the range today....perfect
    ejection now. Ran 300 rounds thru it and its doing like my old G21 always has done..way out to the right.. So, that's that. The questions I have now are this:
    1. Why does it still fail the empty mag well test? Still ejects thru the empty magwell every time.
    2.All info/videos Ive seen on the subject show each person removing the entire trigger housing from the frame to install ejector, which is what I did too. But...do you HAVE to do this? Is there something Im not seeing, but it looks to me like you could just slide out the old, slide in the new w/o removing the housing.
    3. Also..they show everyone taking the trigger bar, connector off the housing before putting on the ejector..which I did NOT do. Saw no need.Why are they doing this? Let me know if Im missing something here, please. Also..the gun has the dipped extractor, if that helps.
    FWIW...ran several Arredondo 5round mag extensions and a few Glock Factory +2 ones. All ran great, this is the 3rd range trip with those, and now Ill start to use them for carry/home defense.
    Any info on my questions appreciated!!
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    -The ejector is a 30274, not a 30724.
    -Hopefully your G17 and G21 are ejecting to the RIGHT, not the left.
    -Ejection without a mag is really a 1911 test, not a Glock test for extraction & ejection.
    -You're correct. The ejector can be pulled out of the Trigger Mechanism Housing (TMH) by removing the rear pin; tilting the TMH up; and pulling out the old ejector.
    -I suspect many folks are used to detail-stripping the Glock by removing the entire TMH.
    -I'm unconvinced there's a direct correlation between dipped and non-dipped extractors. I just don't have enough information to base a decision to condemn all dipped extractors as being bad.

    Enjoy your Glock 17!

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    Gen 3 or gen 4?.


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    DAMN..Im sorry for the dumbass info, I was really pooped when I came in! Yes, ejection is to the right, of course.
    And mine is a two year old Gen3. NOW, its a good gun.
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    That's good you got your pistol running again. I don't know what it is, but I have 3 post 2009 gen 3 9mm Glocks with over 2000 rounds each that still eject completely fine and I haven't touched them. Maybe I should start playing the lottery.

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    I KNOW! I cant figure out why some will run fine with a 336 ejector,
    and some wont. Mine was bad, don't know how it was keeping from causing a jam. But one should not be getting btf 3,4,5 times or more from each mag. I let a few others shoot it so I could watch the gun, and its doing right now at last. Glad I didn't have to buy and extractor too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by L-2 View Post
    The ejector can be pulled out of the Trigger Mechanism Housing (TMH) by removing the rear pin; tilting the TMH up; and pulling out the old ejector.
    -I suspect many folks are used to detail-stripping the Glock by removing the entire TMH.
    Replaced my -336 ejectors in my Gen3's with 30274's over the weekend via the same method. Took about 1 minute per gun to do the swap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Shooter View Post
    I KNOW! I cant figure out why some will run fine with a 336 ejector,
    and some wont. Mine was bad, don't know how it was keeping from causing a jam. But one should not be getting btf 3,4,5 times or more from each mag. I let a few others shoot it so I could watch the gun, and its doing right now at last. Glad I didn't have to buy and extractor too!
    Just out of curiosity, did you test your new ejector with the same mags you were using before when you were getting BTF or did you add extensions at the same time you were testing the new ejector?

    The reason I ask this is adding an extension and keeping the same magazine spring will reduce the force of the cartridge stack pushing upwards which might improve ejection since the magazine won't be exerting as much load upwards on the extracting case trying to twist it out of the extractors grip before the ejector has time to hit it.

    I have 5 Glock 19s. (Both with and without dipped extractors) None of them will eject without a magazine 100% of the time. They will usually drop the case down the well.

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    It fails the empty mag well test because Glocks use the magazine in order to help eject the spent round. While the test is a good way to check 1911s it doesn't necessarily apply equally well to other types of handguns. If your ejection is behaving normally then it sounds like your problem has been fixed.

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    THANKS to all for info about the empty mag well test not applying to Glocks. For some reason, I had it in my head that was a good, general, all around test for most handguns.
    Crow hunter....yessir, I used all 10 mags yesterday..some with standard 17rnd capacity...and two with Arredondo +5's, and two with glock +2's. All worked 100%.
    On my G21..had a another gent. a firearms instructor and very experienced shooter, shoot my G21 with an Arredondo extension, and EVERY shot malfunctioned with him. Had to rack slide/do a clearance for about 6-8 shots. I took it, and fired it out as fast as I could, no prob. I took that same mag out, used it for the rest of the day...100% GTG. I cannot help but wonder wth?
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