I would like to know how many detractors of the AR15 platform have used other rifles in similar environments and can speak to their efficacy...
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I would like to know how many detractors of the AR15 platform have used other rifles in similar environments and can speak to their efficacy...
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Maintenance is not required, it will always fire when the trigger is pulled, insha'allah.
In my limited real world experience...
I had an AF Capt who insisted as you did, that lube was bad in a desert environment. His M4 had problems. I applied heavy lube to my M4. Not a single problem. We both used new issue aluminum mags with tan followers.
Last edited by Koshinn; 10-25-13 at 03:53.
"I never learned from a man who agreed with me." Robert A. Heinlein
Obviously I wouldn't lie about not being able to clean our weapons. Brother, every soldier and Marine over there wiped their bcg of with a rag and cleaned them every chance they got. It was our lifeline. I was out on the Syrian/Jordanian border and our fob consisted of little more than hesco barriers and cammie netting. Im speaking from my experience. I cant speak for yours. Ive seen soldiers and Marines sitting at Camp Al Asad that were living like kings in wooden huts with air conditioning. I doubt they had to worry about weapons maintenance. Ive discussed this issue with many vets since, that stated that they hadn't fired their rifle during their entire deployment.
Like an AK? I just did a google search that turned up nil.
What I wanna know is how has the military not fixed the problems with soldiers not knowing how to lube their rifles quickly and properly? As far as time goes my buddies who fought there all said it was a lot of hurry up and wait.
It sucks that a lot of these young guys had to figure it out the hard way.
Last edited by britishtq; 10-25-13 at 03:55.
Whoa, relax. It was just commentary on your lessons, elaborating on the real solutions to the problems you saw. No insults or slights meant. We just have a plethora of knowledge available here on M4C and I was trying to give you some insight on what we've learned (lube helps with everything, even sand; carbon build-up is essentially a non-factor with lube; piston systems don't add much to the game; Magpul followers will cure most problems in a quality, well-maintained magazine).
If you don't want it, that's fine. Enjoy your time on M4C.
Last edited by Koshinn; 10-25-13 at 04:01.
"I never learned from a man who agreed with me." Robert A. Heinlein
We received several reports of booby trapped AK's and were told not to pick them up. Even heard one storyy about a Marine that went to clear an Ak and when he pulled the charging handle back, it exploded. We got an intel brief about ammo that was filled with some sort of explosive charge or rigged to blow up. There use to be a video on youtube about this. I think it was through AP.
Modern version of "Eldest Son" perhaps? Anyway its a damn shame that troops are still getting taught to run guns dry in the desert. I mean the M4 dust tests PROVED that running heavy lube in extreme dust conditions made guns more reliable, you would think that an official test run by the DoD would have some merit.
In 05 me and 3 other AF cops were sent to Iraq to be part of one of those in lieu of assignments for the Army. (MNFI) We did convoy duty from Talil to Taji. I was assigned to the AF 50 cal school at the time so I was picked to be the 50 gunner. Our Army counterparts wanted us to run our M4s dry as a bone but our 50s dripping. Up in the turret I always had plenty of oil so I was able to keep the bolt wet on my M4 but when we did PCC/PCIs before a mission the convoy commander would want us to show the TC our bolts to make sure they were dry.
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