Interesting .223 Federal Fusion Test

[mr h]

I have basically switched to the 62g Fusion load away from 75g TAP. I believe the 62g Fusion is one of the best all around loads for self defense, hunting, etc... for the AR platform. Maybe its not THE BEST, but as an all around performer, its hard to beat. I havent sold any of my 75g TAP and still keep a few mags of it around, but I dont have it in the guns any more.

it does seem that TAP T2 comes apart pretty fast in gels. you think too much velocity might be the reason for that? if it was slowed down a little would it perform better?

the black box FPD 223 version is slower than the red box right? does it do better in gel tests?

[MegademiC]

Just an update, the "jacket" of the Gold Dot is pure copper.

This leads me to ask...


...back when the Barnes bullets were new (no grooves), they had bad fouling issues.

Have any departments/high round-count users noticed fouling/accuracy issues over time with the Gold Dots?

I have also confirmed this, pure copper jacket.

As for your question, I'm interested as well. Perhaps they use a powder to keep fouling down?

[BufordTJustice]

I have also confirmed this, pure copper jacket.

As for your question, I'm interested as well. Perhaps they use a powder to keep fouling down?

Like CFE 223? Certainly possible. CFE really does reduce bore fouling.

[MegademiC]

Like CFE 223? Certainly possible. CFE really does reduce bore fouling.

That's what I was thinking but dint know the name. I remember reading there was an additive that reduced the copper fouling. Anyone know what it is, I may be able to test for it at work.

[mr h]

I have also confirmed this, pure copper jacket.

As for your question, I'm interested as well. Perhaps they use a powder to keep fouling down?

are the Fusion bullets pure copper?

[rjacobs]

are the Fusion bullets pure copper?

no, which is obvious if you have ever looked at one.

They are a copper jacketed, lead core, soft tip projectile.

[rjacobs]

it does seem that TAP T2 comes apart pretty fast in gels. you think too much velocity might be the reason for that? if it was slowed down a little would it perform better?

the black box FPD 223 version is slower than the red box right? does it do better in gel tests?

Im just fine with a bullet coming apart quickly in gel and dumping its energy.

Thats not at all WHY I switched to the fusion/gold dot type bullet.

My 10.5" SBR is my go to gun. The loss in velocity of a 10.5" barrel REALLY reduces the range that you will get reliable fragmentation. Switching to a bullet that relies more on mushrooming and deforming the tip to transfer energy really opens up that range. Supposedly the Fusion will "open up" down to around 1700fps. I believe(I dont have access to my chrono data) that pushes my effective distance out to 150-175 yards where with a projectile I have to rely on fragmentation to work is only like 75-100 yards out of the 10.5" gun.

[MegademiC]

no, which is obvious if you have ever looked at one.

They are a copper jacketed, lead core, soft tip projectile.

I think he was referring to the jacket. I'm assuming it is, since it's basically a rebranded gold dot. I can verify if there is intest, or if no one can confirm.

[mr h]

uh, arent we talking about the jackets here?

[akssdude]

I'll be trying these on deer here in the next month. I got 5 tags so looking forward to seeing the results.