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    I want a 1911 as close to "GI" as possible, with the following exceptions: Reliability with HP ammo, decent trigger, and a set of sights I can see. I don't care for extended/ambi safeties, slide stops, etc. I would prefer the weapon to have an arched MSH. I don't really care if the trigger is short or long; they both work well for me.

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    Good sights
    Beavertail grip safety
    good mags
    Ambi safety for use with either hand
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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by wichaka View Post
    I don't believe one can get any advice better than from Jeff Cooper;

    Sights you can see;

    Trigger you can manage;

    and a dehorning...
    This.

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    ...We have long maintained that the only accessories that a 1911 needs are a trigger you can manage, sights that you can see, and a dehorning job. That still goes.
    ~Jeff Cooper

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    Must have features. Subject to end user.

    However, I am looking to bring this to the market place and hopefully at a price point that makes sense to people.

    Gov't size
    Railed and non railed (end user preference)
    Highcut grip
    Proper Dehorn (what I call a shooters dehorn) One will not understand this until you shoot one side by side with one that does not have it
    Good sights. No tritium period, plain black rear and shooters choice for front. I tell people what ever you pick up the fastest use.
    Ambi's I think are a must IMO, again subject to shooter

    Front/back strap treatment - No girly hands allowed
    well beveled magwell area. Magwells are nice but not a necessity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TehLlama View Post
    My dilemma is that nobody makes an affordable 1911 that really meets the 'requirement' part of that completely - the Colt Rail Guns are seemingly the closest, but they'd still need a bit of work to really work well.

    Once I'm in the realm of paying the equivalent of 3x or more the cost of a G19, might as well go for features which are nice, instead of merely requisite for a worthwhile carry weapon. Hence in practical terms, my 'nice to have list' is indistinguishable from my 'must have list', because the difference between a reliable, accurate, 230grJHP feeding 1911 and a 1911 which is all of the above but has great grips, a quality 5# trigger, and top end sights is trivially minor as far as cost.

    When it comes to being able to justify the cost of owning a 1911 which meets the minimal requirements on a handgun worth carrying as duty/carry grade, for the cost to performance ratio to make any kind of sense that pistol needs to outperform a cheaper modern handgun in some areas - hence why the 'unnecessary' trigger job putting a 1911 at that wonderful 4.5-5# glass rod is effectively a requirement before I'll consider carrying a 1911. Same with the a lot of the ergonomics of the pistol.
    It's funny that you say that, because I was actually thinking about the Colt Rail Gun when writing that post. Get a CRG. Better sights. Melonite. Done.

    I think they're still putting out the Wiley Clapp right? As far as I know, they don't have any reliability or accuracy issues. (Though they are a CCS gun around $2k.)

    A 2'' at 25m 1911 that's reliable with 230 gr. ammo isn't that hard to get. My definition of reliable is anything greater than 2k MRBS with lube, sans cleaning.
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    If I didn't have $500 worth of holsters and three SF lights built around the DP light rail setup and was starting from scratch with 1911's, I'd do exactly that. Dropping a set of VZ Grips, 10-8 Sights, and resurfacing a CRG still makes it a $2000 gun after a couple magazines. A gorgeous, logical, and smart 1911... This is still more than two of any polymer frame double stack .45 pistols and a stack of magazines for them. TBH, the only reasons I still have any 1911's is that I really feel 1911's are the vintage hot rods of the gun world, and it's an experience to have and use one.
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    This is what I would like to have done to a MilSpec 1911

    Good sights, Novak, 10-8
    Grip safety, sensitive, pinned, or a modern raised swell beavertail, I can use the standard but I want to make sure it will work 100%

    My only flat out requirement is that the rollmarks say "Colt Government Model"

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    You don't need features. You need a high quality piece, then you don't need tune ups reliability work etc.

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    [QUOTE=GunBugBit;1783941][LIST]
    [*]No MIM or plastic, top-grade parts all the way around.



    This

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    For me:

    1. 100% reliability (tested to more than a thousand rounds without failure)
    2. Sticks to your hand like glue. For me, this is 20lpi stippling on the front strap and MSH, but you could do skaters tape if you had to.
    3. Effective cal, and mag capacity. Right now I carry a 1911 in 9mm (10+1), but my next carry gun will be .40. .45 just takes up too much room for me.
    4. I need to be able to put it between the eyes at 10m 9/10 times, so it needs to be comfortable for me.
    5. Fantastic holster (I use a Milt Sparks VMII, daily for more than 2 years now)

    Beyond that, I have lots of preferences, but the gun I carry now isn't what I had planned on carrying. It's a 5" SS, with a dang magwell and bomar sights, ambi safety, FO front sight. Basically, a single stack game gun. But it's daaaamn reliable after I fixed every issue on it, and it packs the right mix of super fast target acquisition, accuracy, and firepower for me. And since my holster works so well, so I'll just carry this thing. If I get some more money later this year, I'll build a bobbed commander (from remsport stuff, they make all the slides and frames for Wilson, and most of the rest of the 1911 "makers" out there). I currently shoot a Kimber Team Match, but with tons of cylinder and slide and EGW parts .

    Also, for others that say there isn't something relatively cheap that fits most carry requirements out of the box, you should take a good hard look at the STI Ranger.

    Lastly, MIM can be as good as you want it to be. The SS MIM parts on my kimber, where I've had to file on them, are probably at least 2x as hard as forged SS parts. They're actually very high quality if, if they fit properly.
    Last edited by jtaylor996; 12-07-13 at 22:32.

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