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Thread: Noveske Gen III Rifles

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerrysimons View Post
    Call me a fanboy, but jeez, this isn't Burger King. You can't blame Noveske for putting together a complete offering and not being a completly custom shop. You complain about Noveske supply lagging behind damand but you would never see a product availible if every rifle was built to order. Now I know it is frustrating to spend that much money on a rifle and still have to dump loads into it to get it the way you want it, but if what Noveske offers is not worth it to you go see Grants BCM page start from there for $1k.

    WS6's problems are legit and his situation with getting screwed by CS is sad, but as unfortunate as his circumstance is, he is literally the only person I have heard of who had legit problems that didn't get taken care of.

    All I want to know is if the receivers are machined from billet or forgings.
    Aside from that, and even assuming it is flawlessly correct dimensionally, and runs like a raped ape, I'm still looking at a 7 pound 10.5" gun, before a loaded mag or optics or a light ever go near it.

    That's ridiculous, I don't care how you try to justify it.

    The "old Noveske" made much more sensible gear, back before John Noveske was taken before his time, and they began capitalizing on the looks of their employees and other things that had nothing to do with building a good rifle. To me, they are kindof like RedJacket now, except their stuff isn't that bad, and Sheri and Nikita actually do look good. Still, the similarities in current business model are very striking, and it's a huge turn-off.

    No amount of tears or wishes or prayers will bring John Noveske back to his family, his friends, or his company, and that is a true tragedy that goes far beyond any companies products, but sadly, that cannot be changed. What can, and what I wish would, though, is that they would turn the clock back on their current trends and get back to building no-nonsense guns the right way, and leave all the nip-slip YouTube videos and 7 pound "precision" 10 inch SBR's and all that to someone else. I can't imagine the internal turmoil they are going through, but I hope they sort it out and get back in the game.

    I remember a time when their guns were light, handy, and ran like a raped ape. They didn't include unnecessary "Gucci" crap. When a lot of people got in hot water over a picture of Sheri. When their customer service was on the ball. Bring THAT back. Not some heavier-yet version of all the current products.
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    It's maybe a $50-100 increase. Cry me a river.

    As stated before: if you don't like it, don't buy it.

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    I believe on the video that was on the home page it showed a CNC machine making the new Gen 3 lower. So I would guess it's billet.

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    Are the Gen 2 lowers no more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    Aside from that, and even assuming it is flawlessly correct dimensionally, and runs like a raped ape, I'm still looking at a 7 pound 10.5" gun, before a loaded mag or optics or a light ever go near it.

    That's ridiculous, I don't care how you try to justify it.

    The "old Noveske" made much more sensible gear, back before John Noveske was taken before his time, and they began capitalizing on the looks of their employees and other things that had nothing to do with building a good rifle. To me, they are kindof like RedJacket now, except their stuff isn't that bad, and Sheri and Nikita actually do look good. Still, the similarities in current business model are very striking, and it's a huge turn-off.

    No amount of tears or wishes or prayers will bring John Noveske back to his family, his friends, or his company, and that is a true tragedy that goes far beyond any companies products, but sadly, that cannot be changed. What can, and what I wish would, though, is that they would turn the clock back on their current trends and get back to building no-nonsense guns the right way, and leave all the nip-slip YouTube videos and 7 pound "precision" 10 inch SBR's and all that to someone else. I can't imagine the internal turmoil they are going through, but I hope they sort it out and get back in the game.

    I remember a time when their guns were light, handy, and ran like a raped ape. They didn't include unnecessary "Gucci" crap. When a lot of people got in hot water over a picture of Sheri. When their customer service was on the ball. Bring THAT back. Not some heavier-yet version of all the current products.
    Woa, just because their rifles look sick and Noveske gives mind to aesthetics doesn't mean their quality has gone to crap, your unfortunate experience not withstanding.

    As for a 10" precision barrel, the more mechanically accurate the better. Noveske has said their 10" SS is one of the most precise barrels they make due to its rigidity and many serious trigger pullers do quite alot with 10" barrels...

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    I'm not a fan of any of Noveske's new product line. I'm confused as to why they chose to change their receivers to billet? Like others have said, if you don't like it don't buy it. I don't like it so I'll spend my money elsewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post

    I remember a time when their guns were light, handy, and ran like a raped ape. They didn't include unnecessary "Gucci" crap. .
    I love this! Pete
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    ONLY thing! NRA Life 1974

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger89 View Post
    They're also still sporting the AAC 51T flash hiders. That's fine for the guys that like them, and want to run an AAC can, but I would have liked to see a drop down menu with different options, including offerings from Surefire and SilencerCo for starters.
    A drop down menu would be nice, but you actually do have options for muzzle devices. You have to contact them directly to have one built, or contact one of their dealers. I get them configured with Battlecomps and Surefire Brakes all the time...in addition to various AAC devices.

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    I would much rather them SHIP ME THE RIFLE I ORDERED LAST DECEMBER than spend all this time on new models....
    "Those who do can't explain; those who don't can't understand"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badger89 View Post
    They're also still sporting the AAC 51T flash hiders. That's fine for the guys that like them, and want to run an AAC can, but I would have liked to see a drop down menu with different options, including offerings from Surefire and SilencerCo for starters. That is one thing Noveske does not seem to do well on - options. You either like the way they think the rifle should be, or you can change it yourself.
    I'm pretty sure this is a limitation of their web site. When I ordered my rifle back in 2012, they were happy to change components (for an upcharge). I think they are still a place that you want to deal with over the phone if the options on their web site don't meet your needs.

    -john

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