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Thread: Noveske Gen III Rifles

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    That's my entire point. Some people are leghumping the Gen 3. I'm not, and I'm explaining why. Stick with the Gen 1's, IMO. This thread IS about the Gen 3, and my comments ARE RELATIVE, as the Gen 3 is just more of the same with the Gen 2. Same philosophy.
    You got an out-of-spec, factory, SBR lower. Tuff luck (really), but that is a QC issue. It is not like the Gen 2 or Gen 3 lowers are designed to a different spec in function critical dimensions. A flared magwell and integral trigger guard are not function critical divegance from mil-spec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    That's my entire point. Some people are leghumping the Gen 3. I'm not, and I'm explaining why. Stick with the Gen 1's, IMO. This thread IS about the Gen 3, and my comments ARE RELATIVE, as the Gen 3 is just more of the same with the Gen 2. Same philosophy.
    And every person on this board is now intimately familiar with how you feel on the subject. You may consider your point made. I hope I've just made mine.

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    Once again. I have a tricked out gen 2 and I'd take a gen 3 any day of the week.
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    16" rifle

    Stainless -5.56 w/NSR: 6lbs 15oz
    Chrome lined - 5.56 w/ NSR: 6lbs 13.9oz

    It seems the Gen 3 stainless barrels are their light stainless profile. Their medium profile Recon barrels are 35oz and these are only 1.1oz heavier than the 29oz chrome lined barrel.

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    I'm not a fanboy of any particular rifle company since I own and have owned lots of different makes and models of rifles/uppers/lowers over the years. Noveske remains at the top of my list. I have three in my current inventory and will buy more at some point. I have no reason to believe that the Gen 3 rifles will be any different quality wise from every other generation of rifles Noveske has built.

    It's obvious there are some Noveske haters posting in this thread but I can assure you that Noveske's reputation stands on it's own and a few posters on M4C will not change that.

    I would love to own a Gen 3 rifle but they are expensive. They are more expensive than some folks are willing to spend. I get that and lucky for those, there are many other excellent options on the market to choose from these days.

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    I wish they made a gen3 .308!
    "I never learned from a man who agreed with me." Robert A. Heinlein

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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    I wish they made a gen3 .308!
    I'm still waiting for a gen2 N6 much less a gen3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshinn View Post
    I wish they made a gen3 .308!
    They kept hinting at it before John Noveske passed. Maybe sometime later this year? I can't help but think circumstances delayed it, but doubt they would scrap one of his projects without much thought.

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    Last edited by WS6; 11-04-13 at 00:36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Javelin View Post
    They are innovating the same as LaRue and KAC.
    That is a very bold statement, especially in regards to KAC.

    Noveske makes some very nice SS barrels, I have an SPR barrel and love it. It has an intermediate gas system which is innovative, but also developed by Vltor.

    KAC achievements are to long to list, but the E3 bolt system and AMBI forged lower are two huge ones.

    The LaRue rail/upper receiver interface is a total departure from milspec, Noveske not at all. LaRue also has the integrated trigger guard which is actually a really simple addition.

    Noveske makes a lower that is billet and not forged, this is not a innovation it is actually not even as good as milspec. It has a flared mag-well and an integrated trigger guard. There is nothing innovative here, just a couple extra lines in a CAD file. Are they nice little additions sure, but lets be honest here they are neither ground breaking nor difficult to do. Something like an ambi lower takes a lot of brain power and R&D. As does the E3 bolt system.

    Both the KAC and Larue rifles are cheaper (significantly) and offer a lot more.

    So what again is so innovative about the Noveske rifles, and what justifies the prices?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMS951 View Post
    That is a very bold statement, especially in regards to KAC.

    Noveske makes some very nice SS barrels, I have an SPR barrel and love it. It has an intermediate gas system which is innovative, but also developed by Vltor.

    KAC achievements are to long to list, but the E3 bolt system and AMBI forged lower are two huge ones.

    The LaRue rail/upper receiver interface is a total departure from milspec, Noveske not at all. LaRue also has the integrated trigger guard which is actually a really simple addition.

    Noveske makes a lower that is billet and not forged, this is not a innovation it is actually not even as good as milspec. It has a flared mag-well and an integrated trigger guard. There is nothing innovative here, just a couple extra lines in a CAD file. Are they nice little additions sure, but lets be honest here they are neither ground breaking nor difficult to do. Something like an ambi lower takes a lot of brain power and R&D. As does the E3 bolt system.

    Both the KAC and Larue rifles are cheaper (significantly) and offer a lot more.

    So what again is so innovative about the Noveske rifles, and what justifies the prices?
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