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    Noveske Gen III Rifles

    Quote Originally Posted by Free Agent View Post
    'm confused as to why they chose to change their receivers to billet?
    Just a wild guess, but I suspect they are trying to have greater in-house control. Pretty hard for a small shop to do forged work, much easier to drop some CNC machines on the floor. Or... They can prototype in-house and then outsource the production. They can make changes easier, faster and probably cheaper. Probably can scale production faster. Less reliant on specific mfg. shops.

    It would be interesting to consider how hard, fast and costly the minor adjustment they made for the Gen II to accept Magpul M3 mags was. My guess is this would be a lot easier with an all CNC approach.

    Likewise they were probably powerless to scale up production during the 2012-2013 shortage because they rely on external vendors.

    I'm kinda guessing the Gen III stuff is more or less functionally on par with the Gen II (as opposed to "better"), but provides Noveske with some advantages.

    -john
    Last edited by bzdog; 11-01-13 at 11:24.

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    1) All I wanted to see on that site was a 14.5" SKINNY MOE.

    2) I'm not upset about the new upper receiver. Time will tell if it's GTG or not, but it's just another option. The looks may not be for everyone (I still like the MUR), but it's not driving the weight terribly or doing anything "bad." Did you guys complain this much when new styles of handguards or buttstocks hit the market? More options are better.

    3) As far as the barrels, I'm sure as they build their catalog they will offer standard weight and LW options as before. The SWS rail is a beast and SS barrels are heavy too. I suppose it depends on what you're used to, but I've been told my 12.5" Crusader Switchblock is "heavy" and I certainly don't think so.

    4) "If I were in charge" I would build a line of no BS rifles and a line of boutique rifles with non-standard controls, fancy rails, and all that stuff. Like a Tudor/ Rolex thing...

    5) I hope they drop Troy in favor of MBUS Pro. I too would like to see the Trifecta, Vortex, SF, BC, and other options as a drop down.

    6) I am glad the "No Shoes, No Shirt, NOVESKE" logo girl isn't wearing shoes anymore... because that just didn't make any sense.

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    Comparing Noveske to Red Jacket is a bit much...don't you think?

    In the end if you don't like what they're offering then you can buy something else or build one yourself. No harm done.

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    does anyone know if the gen3 lowers are compatible with surefire 60rd mags?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nolt View Post
    does anyone know if the gen3 lowers are compatible with surefire 60rd mags?
    Looks like it:
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    Quote Originally Posted by advan031 View Post
    Comparing Noveske to Red Jacket is a bit much...don't you think?

    In the end if you don't like what they're offering then you can buy something else or build one yourself. No harm done.
    Yeah that is a borderline offensive statement there. Noveske doesn't sell gimmicky firearms. They make high quality rifles and barrels, like you said yourself, if they don't like the price don't buy it. Are some of their products priced a tad high? Sure. It's nice to see though that the company is still going strong after the loss of John.
    98% Sarcastic. 100% Overthinking things and making up reasons for buying a new firearm.

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    I own 2 Noveske rifles and I'm not sure I like the changes.

    The MUR was allready an ounce or two heaver than a standard forged upper and the new upper seems to add weight and bulk and i'm not sure what the benefit is to us. This also flies in the face of what the NSR hand guard is all about, lightness and efficiency.

    Also the price seems quite a bit higher than before.

    It is good that they standardized on the NSR BBL nut and changed the quad rails to use it.

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    I like them a lot. Noveske makes some of the best damn rifles in the world. And there is plenty of competition out there for their products such as KAC, LaRue, etc. and Noveske is STILL always sold out. They are like white buffalos in any local or online gun shop.
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    This is 2012. The world is going to end this December and people are still trying to debate the merits of piece of shit, cost cutting crap AR's. Really?

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    I wonder if they are just putting out billet lowers while they wait for new dies for new forgings, then they will switch back to forged lowers.

    If not, I'm not any more impressed with their billet lower than any one else's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6 View Post
    ...why does a 10.5" gun weigh 7 pounds? Does all that "pretty" really make up for the roughly 1.5# more weight you're lugging around? When you consider that the bare rifle weighs as much as a comparable rifle with a suppressor AND an Aimpoint T1 in place...

    Yes, I know I know "So shut up and don't buy one." Don't worry---I won't. I can assure you of that much. It just made my eyes bug out that the thing is so bloody heavy for a 10.5" DI carbine, and I had to ask...why? What's the "return" for that weight? Looks? I compared it to a comparable Gen II, and it's several ounces heavier. I would think making a gun lighter > making a gun heavier. There is absolutely ZERO benefit to those pounds and ounces, IMO, unless someone has a logical explanation? I'm genuinely curious as to the *why*, here.

    http://shopnoveske.com/collections/r...tchblock-rifle
    I'm seeing that it doesn't even weigh a pound more than a stock Colt commando.

    Considering the Noveske comes with a suppressor mount, 9" quad rail, and that pretty hefty Magpul stock...I don't see the uproar over the weight. You could probably get really close to the weight of the Colt by just switching to a lighter stock. Not to mention you're looking at the weight with a stainless barrel. The chrome lined version is probably lighter.
    Last edited by MikeCLeonard; 11-01-13 at 17:58.

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