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    Awesome review, Greg.

    What's a tactical lawyer/tactical engineer?

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    A lawyer that knows that the gun is mightier than the pen.
    If you aren't armed when you take a dump in your own home then your opinion on what is a practical daily carry weapon isn't interesting to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post




    Rocketman:

    I only took two cell phone pictures. Like Greg said, a professional photographer was in the class and he took hundreds of pictures. I will post the link to his site when he has them uploaded.

    Greg's impromptu AAR is spot on. The class was one of the best if not the best one that Ken did for me. He started day one in the drizzling rain with the warm up drills and ended the class with the grand finale. I am sadden that this may be the last class Ken will do for me as he stated that he is seriously thinking about retiring after this year.

    I shot my M&P Shield in the morning session of day 1, I am very impressed with the little gun. I did not shoot one round out of the -0 zone of the IDPA target. In the afternoon session and night shooting portion, I went to the Walther PPQ. It handled itself real well and proved that it is a serious contender as a carry and self defense gun.

    On day two I shot the new CZ P07 that I picked up last Thursday. Like I stated in another post, several highly experienced shooters were impressed with the balance and the wonderful DA trigger. The lack of recoil and the accuracy impressed everyone including Ken. We shot the TEST twice, the first one I totally flopped, but I made it up in the second one and shot it clean. In the grand finale, I used the Colt 1911 that John Harrison did his magic on. BTW, John was in the class and he only shot his M&Ps, the Shield in the morning of day 1 and full size M&P the rest of the class. I've known John for almost 20 years, the man can pick up any gun and shoot it well.

    There were 18 shooters which included two Federal agents, one retired cop, one active cop who just came straight from the Rogers Shooting School which he scored Advanced, two former USPSA Masters (one shot in the World shoot in the 80's, a doctor and his son, one insurance executive, two tactical lawyers and two tactical engineers. One of the students was female, she shot really well.

    I chickened out and didn't use my J frame. The class was pretty fast paced so I thought running the J frame would put me too far behind.
    Thanks for the insight....glad Greg was "representing" with the Wilson...more bummed I couldn't attend
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    There were quite a few 1911s there. At least one other Wilson too.
    If you aren't armed when you take a dump in your own home then your opinion on what is a practical daily carry weapon isn't interesting to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Bell View Post
    There were quite a few 1911s there. At least one other Wilson too.
    Yep.

    Ken shot his Wilson built "Hackathorn Special" 9mm 1911.
    Brad shot a Wilson on the first day and a Les Baer on day two.
    Jason shot a Chris James built 1911, I didn't know what base gun he used.
    Tim shot a Rogers Colt.
    Horace shot a Springfield customized by a 'smith that escaped my memory
    Michael shot a Brian Bilby tuned 1911 (unknown base gun).
    Tony shot a Colt, the last true custom gun built by Bill Ives at the old Pachmayr Gun Works before Pachmayr started building batch guns (built by several 'smiths and technicians, instead of by one master gunsmith).
    I shot a Colt customized by John Harrison (only in the grand finale drill).

    There was no malfunction that so many people on the internet have been saying about the 1911s. The only malfunction I noticed or heard about was my buddy's S&W M&P Pro. It was extraction issue that he's been having on occasion for awhile now.

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    Since Greg posted his mini AAR of the Hackathorn pistol class here, I'll add some pictures that the professional photographer/student took:



    For Georgia USPSA State Champion and his Pachmayr Combat Special:



    1911forum member and his Wilson Combat 1911:



    Ken shooting his Wilson Hackathorn Special 9mm:



    Sam and his CZ P07:


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    Nice hat
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    A couple more:



    Disabled primary hand, so you shoot with the support hand:



    The Master studying his flock intensely:


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    5175 (150 GA ARMS)

    150 rounds. Light week. I actually split up my ammo supply for the week between the Wilson and a Colt rail gun I picked up for beside the bed duty until I can find a railed Wilson set up that I like.

    Anyhoo, I think this will be my drill setup from here on out....

    1. Dot Torture drill (50 shots) hard. This is a drill where a sweet trigger pays off.(this has weak and strong hand portions).
    2. Hackathorn movement drills (forwards, backwards, side to side). I try to incorporate barriers and tons of mag swaps.
    3. 5 Bill drills
    4. 3 El Pres drills.
    5. 20 or so rounds at 25 yard targets and 50 and 75 yard gongs.

    This seems like a pretty good combination of drills and keeps you on your feet.

    I didn't mention it in my last post because I wanted to focus on my review of the class, but I had some sort of malfunction last week. During one of the low-light drills while I was using the Roger's technique to hold my flashlight I had some sort of failure to feed. I have no idea because it was pitch black all that happened was I had a dead trigger, did an immediate tap rack and bang, and kept shooting. I was actually able to clear it fast enough to finish the drill fast enough that I still wasn't the last person to finish the drill. If I had to guess I was pressing in on the slide and slide release lever and caused weirdness, but who knows? Anyway, it never happened again during the class nor this week.


    I am thinking of adding a Smith and Alexander mag-well to my Springfield Range officer (9mm) does anyone know how it differs from the Wilson unit?
    If you aren't armed when you take a dump in your own home then your opinion on what is a practical daily carry weapon isn't interesting to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Bell View Post


    I didn't mention it in my last post because I wanted to focus on my review of the class, but I had some sort of malfunction last week. During one of the low-light drills while I was using the Roger's technique to hold my flashlight I had some sort of failure to feed. I have no idea because it was pitch black all that happened was I had a dead trigger, did an immediate tap rack and bang, and kept shooting. I was actually able to clear it fast enough to finish the drill fast enough that I still wasn't the last person to finish the drill. If I had to guess I was pressing in on the slide and slide release lever and caused weirdness, but who knows? Anyway, it never happened again during the class nor this week.


    I am thinking of adding a Smith and Alexander mag-well to my Springfield Range officer (9mm) does anyone know how it differs from the Wilson unit?
    Your malfunction, could have been the flashlight or part of your hand holding the light touching the magazine release button to partially release the magazine. So the next shot went click since the slide didn't pick up any round from the magazine. Your tap, rack, bang put everything back in place.

    I had this happen to me years ago when I shot the Beretta 92G-SD. That gun came from the factory with an enlarged and extended magazine release button. Whenever I used the Rogers flashlight method, the light or my hand would just come in contact with the magazine release button.

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