Shotguns not for COMBAT use

**Alaskapopo** · 05-13-09, 03:49

Originally Posted by WS6

Would OOO down a 600# Black Bear safely/reliably/comfortably for you? (reason I ask is my friends live where Black Bear also live)

I really don't trust buck shot on bears.
Pat

**RWK** · 05-13-09, 19:34

Originally Posted by Alaskapopo

I had to kill 2 black bear last summer in the line of duty. The first one I had to kill charged me. 2 slugs put it down but it tried to get back up. I shot it 2 more times on the ground, reloaded then shot it twice in the head. Yes they are tough. The second bear I had to shoot had broken into a woman's apartment. When I arrived on scene it was in the laundry room. I waited for it to exit and I waited until I had a safe back stop. It rose up on its hind legs. from about 7 yards away. I shot it in the chest once and then twice more in the back as it turned to run. that slowed it down but it was still moving away. I reloaded and got closer to it. It spun around and started biting at its own mid section. I shot it 3 more times as it spun. This dropped it. I then put two in its head. I used Breneke slugs. Yes bears are tough to kill.

You must have some mutant black bears up there! Black bear in the eastern states are routinely taken with .41 and .44 Magnum handguns.

**Alaskapopo** · 05-13-09, 20:54

Originally Posted by RWK

You must have some mutant black bears up there! Black bear in the eastern states are routinely taken with .41 and .44 Magnum handguns.

Taking an animal when it does not know you are there (hunting situations) vs one that is amped up and charging are two very different things. And yes everything in Alaska is bigger and tougher.

Pat

**WS6** · 05-13-09, 21:23

Originally Posted by Alaskapopo

Taking an animal when it does not know you are there (hunting situations) vs one that is amped up and charging are two very different things. And yes everything in Alaska is bigger and tougher.

Pat

I can attest to this. Watch any fights you can. Not TV, real fights. The guy that gets PISSED usually gets the living hell knocked out of him before he goes down (or wins). Doesn't even show it. It was the same for me when I fought full contact. After that split second after the first punch (especially when face is involved), you don't feel it anymore until after the fight. Then again, you walk into a door frame or bump into something ogling some chic at the supermarket and it almost takes you out. Good point on mindset.

The thing I love about animals is that they decide to do something, they DO IT. They don't say "OMGZ! I been shotz 10101!!! I need to fallz!!!" like so many people do. They keep trucking with whatever thought is in their head until they physically cannot continue. I respect that a lot.

**Alaskapopo** · 05-13-09, 22:29

Originally Posted by WS6

I can attest to this. Watch any fights you can. Not TV, real fights. The guy that gets PISSED usually gets the living hell knocked out of him before he goes down (or wins). Doesn't even show it. It was the same for me when I fought full contact. After that split second after the first punch (especially when face is involved), you don't feel it anymore until after the fight. Then again, you walk into a door frame or bump into something ogling some chic at the supermarket and it almost takes you out. Good point on mindset.

The thing I love about animals is that they decide to do something, they DO IT. They don't say "OMGZ! I been shotz 10101!!! I need to fallz!!!" like so many people do. They keep trucking with whatever thought is in their head until they physically cannot continue. I respect that a lot.

A friend of mine calles that goal driven individuals. If a person is goal driven only a hit to the CNS will stop them immediately and same goes with animals.
Pat