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    I second the advice about getting an ADS from Grant.

    I have several Stags. At the time I bought them, my research indicated they were the best buy for 1) my intended uses and 2) the money. I still enjoy them, and I still believe I made the best choice I could ... at that time. However, times have changed. If I had it to do over again - and if I were buying an entire rifle rather than building my own, which I now prefer doing - I'd get the ADS instead. It's about $100 more than the price you gave for the Stag, but I'd say you're getting more than $100 of better value.

    I hope you get into the Navy, and I wish you good fortune if you do. I spent 8 years in the Navy. As Dickens once wrote: It was the best of times; it was the worst of times. Still, despite all that, I wish I had stayed in and did my 20. If you make the most of it, you'll enjoy your time in service.

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    My friend won a stag arms patrol rifle in a raffle and upon inspecting it after he had been using it on patrol for about a year (he actually loaned it to the small village dept he works for and all the officers qualify with and carry it), I noticed the pistol grip was loose, the castle nut on the stock was not staked and the gas key was improperly staked.

    As far as bushmasters go, I have heard a lot of bad things, then on day one of trident concepts' advanced combative carbine, Jeff Gonzalez said he usually sees an average of 3 bushmaster bolts break in a three day class - usually around day three. Half way through day one a bushy bolt broke at the cam pin slot and the class was halted, while they got tools to work the bolt out. Lucky for him, someone had a spare rifle to lend him to finish out the class. There were several other bushmasters that didnt go down, but to have heard problems for along time, then a prediction that although not three guns, did come to pass, is enough proof for me. Now, I have a bushy upper with probablly 7,000 rounds through it. Outside of replacing the gas rings when they got worn, I haven't had a problem with it. But to many people have had or seen others with problems with there bushys'

    I know its repeating the usual sentiment on this forum, but save your money and get a colt, lmt, noveske, lwrc or HK - if they ever become available.
    Last edited by Stretz Tactical Inc; 05-12-08 at 11:20. Reason: spelling

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    Yeah you only have to be 18 for a rifle. I forgot... But im thinking about getting an MP5 or something similar... Pretty much i dont know what i want. Because 9mm are alot cheaper than .223 unless i shouldnt be worrying about that? I dont know.

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    I just realized that they arent 223... they are 5.56

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    Quote Originally Posted by PYRO31888 View Post
    I just realized that they arent 223... they are 5.56
    Most lowers are going to be marked .223/5.56. 5.56 is the NATO chambering that's set at a higher pressure, therefore you could run both. Some are going to be only stamped 5.56, like LMT I know for sure, but it'd be alright to run .223 through it since it is at a lower pressure. Basically you could run either provided it's stamped .223/5.56, which most are.
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